[1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

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[1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#1 Post by Theosz » 30 Sep 2016 00:01

Hello,

In my pc, again, since v1.24, In many profiles, I've been notice that all ai vehicles stops in a wrong place on almost all kind of cross roads, mainly "T" type.

it is worst when I'm using a big trailer and comes vehicles from any places.

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my game.log.txt: http://pastebin.com/aVvSC3CT of vanilla profile.

some examples:
(sec+0000-0009);503.191;31.4782;-35287.3
(sec-0001-0009);-36.271;46.2928;-34704.5

anybody else?
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#2 Post by Grimples » 30 Sep 2016 03:57

Very irritating, using g_traffic 0 works wonders :D imo the AI is bl00dy horrendous, AI prioity seems to be configured backwards, they giveway in all the wrong places, not unless this is how they drive where ever SCS are based.
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#3 Post by Drive Safely » 30 Sep 2016 04:03

Yeah it happens to me too. Has nobody else reported this bug? This bug is like months old :P
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#4 Post by Soilingcomic » 30 Sep 2016 04:19

The stop line is drawn on the wrong entry into the crossroad too. You should have it in front of your truck in that picture. The straight ahead traffic will always have right of way in such crossings.
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#5 Post by golcan » 30 Sep 2016 05:48

Hi mates,

Yes, it happens to me all the time. :twisted: :!: :!:

Look at these shots:

Three AI trucks blocking me:
[ external image ]ets2_00043 by golcan arg, en Flickr

Three cars blocking me:
[ external image ]ets2_00107 by golcan arg, en Flickr

Two cars face to face. And, believe it or not, if you see behind them far in the right, two trucks are in the same situation!
[ external image ]ets2_00169 by golcan arg, en Flickr

Four vehicles blocking me:
[ external image ]ets2_00172 by golcan arg, en Flickr

An AI car suddenly stopped in the highway, and didn't move anymore.
[ external image ]ets2_00120 by golcan arg, en Flickr


AI behaviour sometimes is non-sense. I don't know what happened, I only hope SCS can solve it soon.

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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#6 Post by Flemming V » 30 Sep 2016 05:52

OP, Could he be stopping late, because he got scared, when you drove out on the road (over the stop line)?
Or would he stop there, because he should left anyway, no matter where you are?

Usual I notice that they are driving more "normally" when we keep our nose inside the stop lines our self.

I am not saying that they are perfect, not at all, but most of the time, they react after what we do.
As many also says, like that they always drive out and into us in a roundabout, but usual it's because we drive
all the way to the right in it, even we will not take the next exit.

golcan, Pic 1, yes they block you, because you have driven out (over the line) on the road and they then STOP for you rather than drive. Backup a few meters and they drive along.
Pic 2 and 4, same story
Not that it is correct, but this is why they stop. If you have this is mind, it is much more easy to drive smooth in traffic.

My best advice: Adapt to the AI traffic, they will not adapt to your driving.
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#7 Post by pero » 30 Sep 2016 10:00

It is annoying, I`ve been in this situation daily on one of those intersections.

The solution might be SCS repositioning the signs on the intersection, which would improve the observation angles of the intersection. This would mean you would easly be tracking traffic from left and right behind your stop/give way line.

I`ve seen that on some map mods and it works like a charm.
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#8 Post by Baja_002 » 30 Sep 2016 11:38

AI is crazy and while SCS tried to fix it, it's still annoying and making mistakes over and over again. Sometimes they don't even stop where they should, while at some places they stop and don't move (even though you don't have enough room to move anywhere).
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#9 Post by natvander » 30 Sep 2016 12:42

I agree with Flemming that much of the issue is dependant on where you stop, as well as the status of your indicator. This doesn't mean I think the AI is working as intended. At some of these intersections you have no choice but to pull out just to see the traffic. As soon as you cross the line, even by a centimetre, and the AI stops in the most inconvenient place. And roundabouts...the number of times I've been hit by AI traffic when I had the apparent right of way.
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Re: [1.25] wrong place to stop in "T" crossing roads

#10 Post by Mohegan13 » 30 Sep 2016 12:53

golcan wrote: Four vehicles blocking me:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5724/2993 ... 91f1_c.jpg

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In this case you are the reason you're stuck.

The car directly in front of you wants to turn left AND HAS RIGHT OF WAY. By pulling out so far you have prevented him from being able to go by making traffic back up on your left.

The other cars in front of you stopped because you pulled out of the junction too much.

While the AI is a bit dodgy, this one was your own doing. (turning off the indicator will sometimes make the cars going straight forward begin moving again)
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