Texas pre-research tips

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#121 Post by Sora » 06 Jun 2019 05:17

ATS penalizes you for running red lights, regardless of whether or not police are nearby.

This could, arguably, be seen loosely as an implementation of red light cameras. I believe it's actually an older mechanic that predates police, but... certainly at this point, one might wonder how the signals are ticketing you if not for cameras.

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#122 Post by TwinShadow » 07 Jun 2019 09:08

Surprisingly enough, in my years of driving and for the while we had red light cameras, I was never ticketed from one. But it would still be nice for some sort of monitoring though since I actually did see a couple blatant red-light runs lol...
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#123 Post by djttcancer87 » 20 Jun 2019 02:35

Here is a video by TXDOT showing what West Texas is currently facing - trucking is very important to this never-ending oil boom. I'm sure that in a future Texas DLC, available load types will be sand containers and multiple oil tankers. Delivery destinations should be the massive sand silos located near Monahans and Kermit. Also, SCS should see if they could simulate potholes and maybe minimal tire degradation, certainly on the small Farm-to-market roads, TX-302, and US 285.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8vSa4ocsis

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#124 Post by djttcancer87 » 22 Jun 2019 02:43

Since I'm bored I'll guide SCS developers through some details of (mostly western) Texas signage and these are all Google street view links. I think it'll do good in getting an idea of what driving through Texas looks like.


conspicuous Signage
& traffic lights


1. All over Texas, you'll see the brown "Historical Marker" signs. There's an entire program by the historical commission for these and each marker has a number and the marker itself tells the story of an event/thing that was there.
2. Also in that street view spot, there's the new "Passing lane 2 miles" sign that TxDOT is using.
3. In the next streetview frame you can see the small "Fasten Seat Belts / State law" sign that is at the exit of most roadside parks.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3672261 ... 6656?hl=en

Everywhere in Texas you will see the blue "Adopt a Highway program" sign. In Texas, they are 2 mile stretches. I imagine SCS can make up names of people and things to put as the participant.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9447859 ... 6656?hl=en
Sidenote : Yes, there are a lot of mountains in the southwest corner of Texas. SCS could maybe surprise people who don't know about the Big Bend. In-game, deliveries could be made to Presidio, as there is a railroad going into Mexico. A trade corridor goes through the area (La Entrada al Pacifico).

1. "DWI - You Can't Afford It" sign
2. Littering Prohibited sign - $10-2000 fine
These are found after passing a roadside park.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5215571 ... 6656?hl=en

Left Lane for Passing Only sign - a famous sign across Texas (In Gaines County they are on both sides of the road)
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5260002 ... 6656?hl=en

A stop sign with solar panel powered warning lights and yellow cross traffic warning sign
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1840895 ... 6656?hl=en

A single blue sign for child safety found only in Seminole
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7189155 ... 6656?hl=en

Two details only for the town of Seminole - the little yellow "NOTICE" sign for the truck route and there is no set of traffic signal on the side of the pole thing.
- Seminole has a designated truck route but it uses residental roads
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7205667 ... 6656?hl=en

Details for the city of Andrews, which is on the 4-lane 385 corridor.
1. Importantly, thru-traffic commercial vehicles are NOT allowed in the city. They have to use the Loop 1910. It's not a state-designated number, it is the city's designated road, with it's own sign that has "LOOP 1910" with the city logo. If trucks go through city limits and are caught, they receive a citation.
2. This town has unique traffic signal poles, with a swinging street sign (except for the intersections on the north and east sides of the new loop).
3. In this town and others, there's usually a blue sign with the letter H. It's for the hospital.
4. Look at the volume of truck traffic.
5. Most traffic lights in this area will not only have the left turn green arrow, but when the light is just green, drivers can turn left if no one is coming.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3064059 ... 6656?hl=en

Rest area signs on I-20 have a sign dictating how far the next rest area is.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.5348862 ... 6656?hl=en

At this spot on I-20 at Pyote, there are curve warning signs that are square shape.
Also, right there is the WW-II era Rattlesnake bomber base. Down the road, the fancy Rest Area has indoor exhibits about WWII bomber planes and such.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.5281047 ... 8192?hl=en

The signs on US 87 near San Angelo and Big Spring are unusually large. The green directional signs are also in a classic highway font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.6759491 ... 6656?hl=en

1. About every city and county sign looks like this. City signs show only population. Most of these signs won't say "Entering" or "Leaving", although some have "Entering", like Ector County.
2. About every TX/NM stateline crossing has a pavement difference.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2569857 ... 6656?hl=en

More things:
- Texas doesn't have the system of yellow "passing zone ends" signs and "pass with care" signs (as New Mexico has).
- Texas traffic lights are sideways, but there are some intersections around the major cities that may have them upright.
- For every overpass/bridge you ever drive on in Texas, you'll always see the "bridge may ice in cold weather" sign, and sometimes you see the "Water may ICE on road" sign.
Green mileage signs are everywhere, usually after you pass an intersection. They normally list the next 2 cities, and the miles to get to it. (They aren't in the current game).
Each, or most, of the 254 counties is/can different with certain signage.

Well I hope that's not too much of a challenge on SCS
Later I'll list the lesser-known Unique Intersections that map developers can have lots of fun recreating (San Angelo has a good one)

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#125 Post by supersobes » 22 Jun 2019 02:57

@djttcancer87 Interesting! :) Very cool information! I think it's cool how Texas has a horizontal version of the dog house signals. I've never seen that before. :o

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#126 Post by Sora » 22 Jun 2019 22:19

Another headache: city signage sometimes looks different.
Here's one example (Plains), where it's all on one small sign.
Here's a similar example (Bastrop), where it's on a slightly larger sign. In both cases it's just large enough to fit the name of the city.
San Antonio has different ones for both Interstate 10 and US 281.
Sometimes it's a sign with another sign appended to it, as in Conroe. Also on the left, for some reason.

Sometimes there's a sign when leaving the city, both big (San Antonio) and relatively small (Conroe). Sometimes it'll look like a normal sign (Junction). Sometimes there just won't be an exit sign at all.

If you want to use a "generic" sign, the most "typical" thing would probably be using the Bastrop/Junction examples at both entrance and exits. But if you want to be perfectly realistic, you're going to have a bad time.

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#127 Post by supersobes » 23 Jun 2019 03:30

I found this which is a Texas parody of "I've Been Everywhere" by Johnny Cash. It shows the city limit signs of all the cities that the writer has been to in Texas.

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#128 Post by Sora » 23 Jun 2019 06:30

Ah, by the way.

Since it seems like you're interested in counties now going by Arizona, here's a map of Texas with counties, roads, and cities.

I'm not going to say it's the easiest to read, and with how many counties Texas has I'm not sure how much it'll actually make your life easier, but... it's something. A higher-resolution map exists but I'm not paying $83 for it, and the low-res one is perfectly fine as long as you have a secondary map to reference small text/numbers.

Pay special attention to the fact that counties aren't necessarily in the obvious locations. Houston County is not especially near Houston. Tyler county isn't particularly close to Tyler. Austin county is somewhat near Austin, but definitively does not contain it. While there are a lot of counties, there's a bit of logic to how they're organized: for the most part, they tend to be in simple grid patterns. This grid is sometimes disrupted by natural boundaries, most visibly the Pecos River. In areas where the grid is disrupted by natural boundaries, it will often resume in a different orientation between that and the next boundary. So oddly shaped ones without a natural boundary associated with them tend to be somewhat uncommon, and exist primarily where different 'grids' meet. There are a few odd exceptions, like Tom Green County extending out toward Reagan County, but I wouldn't think too hard about them.

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#129 Post by Unknown# » 01 Sep 2019 05:54

I'm very late on this, and I do apologize, but, in regards on what the fictionalized version of 'Kum & Go' should be: Why not use 'Come & Go' instead? It's simple, and it's not as suggestive as the 'other alternative'. Not really that difficult.

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#130 Post by natvander » 01 Sep 2019 06:34

supersobes wrote:
23 Jun 2019 03:30
I found this which is a Texas parody of "I've Been Everywhere" by Johnny Cash. It shows the city limit signs of all the cities that the writer has been to in Texas.
You mean "a Texas parody of "I've Been Everywhere" by Geoff Mack" (not Johnny Cash). Furthermore, Geoff Mack wrote both the original Australian version AND the later North American version (which was originally sung by Hank Snow).
The song was written in 1959, but Johnny Cash didn't cover it until 1966 (the North American version was written in 1962).
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