North American Agriculture Discussion

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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#81 Post by flight50 » 04 Oct 2020 18:32

@Original Sketch That link doesn't work
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#82 Post by PFTW1995 » 27 Oct 2020 22:07

Hello everyone this is my first post on the forum, I'm glad to be here and am exited for more ag content.

This post I'll focus more on supply chain and the prefabs that may be needed.
For context.
I've been pulling a hopper bottom for 4 years now hauling mostly fertilizer, some grain, a little feed. Mostly in Texas and surrounding states,
as a result my posts will reflect this experience.

Local Distribution centers like the small town farmers CO-OP are a staple of the ag supply chain,
and are a much more common pick up/delivery location than the farm directly. Of course larger farms are more likely to have their own grain bins, fertilizer storage, ect.
Local distribution centers could include, liquid fertilizer tanks, Dry fertilizer barn, seed/feed pallet warehouse, grain elevator, feed mill, farm fuel tanks,
general farm supply store and other crop storage. a local distributor may have only 1, some combination of, or all of these things at one location.
of couse I don't expect each combination to end up in game. It is pretty common to see dry and liquid fertilizer at the same location.

Dry fertilizer is loaded at a variety of places, mineral fertilizers are usually mined, processed and loaded at the same location. A potash mine prefab is needed for this.
Chemical fertilizer is of course produced at chemical plants.
All types of fertilizer are brought in via ship or river barge, and can then be loaded onto trucks or trains at dry bulk port terminals. this is another needed prefab.

Throughout the year grain is loaded at local elevators and farmers bins and delivered to other elevators, port terminals, flour mills, feed mills, ethanol fuel plants
and cattle feed yards. and of course during harvest grain is loaded on the field directly from the combine harvester or "chaser buggy".
I have seen some models in the Idaho DLC of the metal grain bins, but none of the larger concrete variety, (its possible I just missed them) concrete elevators are common
in many situations such as flour mills, port terminals and other end users for storage.

Currently grain loads are way to light in game, but I expect there will be accurate volume weights once the move is made away from generic "Grain". Had to throw that in.

Feed is often a secondary/bi-product of grain, DDG (dried distilled grain) is a Bi-product of turning corn into ethanol fuel, "wheat mids" is a bi-product of wheat milled into flour.
these products and others such as, soybean meal, whole grain, mineral calcium, and other mined minerals are all used as animal food ingredients, and are delivered to,
industrial feed mills, local feed mills, livestock feed yards and pet food plants.

I haven't hauled liquid fertilizer yet so a post involving that will come later.

Thanks to the other posters and especially to Flight50 for starting this thread!
Flight50, I believe we met on the last day of GATS 2019, it took me quiet some time to actually join the form but I'm here now!
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#83 Post by flight50 » 28 Oct 2020 02:58

@PFTW1995 Welcome to the forum. I am sure your post can be pretty useful to the devs. I remember several from GATS but I can't say I remember a lot on the last day, lol. Apologies. Did we meet at the truck parking lot on the Fairgrounds or at the convention center? Did you meet the (3) devs from SCS that attended the show? @Kraake was one of them. He is in charge of all research at SCS. He may find your info you just posted ^^^ useful and can consider it as part of research.

If you have more to share, please knock yourself out, lol. The more info, the more chances they may be able to find a way to use it. I think Ag in ATS can be several times larger than what we currently have. Its one of the deepest industries that can come to ATS.
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#84 Post by nater6540 » 09 Apr 2021 16:11

flight50 wrote: 08 Mar 2020 01:27 Vegetables

Beans
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Black Beans
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Black Eyed Peas
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Great Northern Beans
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Kidney Beans
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Lima Beans
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Navy Beans
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Pinto Beans
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Red Beans
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Soybeans
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Lettuce
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Leaf Lettuce
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Romaine Lettuce
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Iceberg Lettuce
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Kale
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Mushrooms

Agaricus Bisporus – stage 1 – Button, stage 2 – cremini/baby portobello stage 3 - portobello
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White Button
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Cremini
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Portobellos
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Onions
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Red Onions
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Scallion
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White Onions
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Yellow Onions
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Peppers

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Banana Pepper
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Cayenne
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Cherry
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Habanero
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Jalapeno
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Sugar - uses of sugar

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Brown Sugar
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Confectioners Sugar
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Liquid Sugar
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Organic Cane Sugar
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Whole Cane Sugar
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Tomato

Red Beefsteak
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Squash
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Sugar Beets
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Zucchini
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To add to the amount of peppers, what about hotter stuff like Carolina Reapers, ghost peppers, Serranos, Jalapeños, etc.
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#85 Post by flight50 » 09 Apr 2021 18:16

Any of those could be added...sure. I'm not dismissing them. The only one I added from your list though is Jalapenos. Of your list, its the most common US wide. I pretty much focused on consumables that are the most common/popular you see wide spread across the US in every single grocery store you'd walk into in the United States.

Carolina Reaper seems to be a South Carolina thing so its not grown wide spread. Truck loads and truck loads isn't something I'd do if only coming from one location.
Ghose Pepper seems to be an India (Asia) thing.
Serrano pepper seems to be a Mexico native.
Jalapeno is already in my document along with a few other peppers that are found in groceries around the US.

Now importing any of these can happen. At the end of the day, cargo is cargo but in my documents, I'm thinking of things that are in stores and more than likely grown in the US which means we can get farm depots with these crops to haul.
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#86 Post by Tails » 09 Apr 2021 21:21

some other crops that would be nice to have in ATS such as

- Garlic
- spearmint
- Basil
like to explore new areas of maps for both ATS and ETS2.

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Producer and processor of horseradish, Eau Claire, WI.

#87 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 13 Apr 2021 05:12

Today we are going to bring information to this segment of agricultural research in the United States.
The US is not just that; wheat, soy, corn, cattle, milk, wood ... or mining.

The United States of America stands out in many other agricultural crops, today we are going to bring one more novelty, the farm and also the largest production processing industry in the world of horseradish and its products. This beautiful agro-industrial complex, and the city of Eau Claire, is located in the US state of Wisconsin. So it is a great attraction to be on the map of the Wincosin DLC.

1. "Huntsinger Farms & Silver Springs''.
It is also the largest producer and processor of horseradish in the world.
Reference: https://www.wearegreenbay.com/midwest-f ... re-county/

Eau Claire, WI. Farm and Industry.
Localization Google maps: https://www.google.com.br/maps/@44.7720 ... a=!3m1!1e3


Huntsinger Farms: Website: https://www.huntsingerfarms.com/
Produces: horseradish, soy, corn, forage, wild rice.

2. 'Silver Spring''. (Food industrie). Website: https://www.silverspringfoods.com/
Products: Cream Style, Cranberry, Steak Sauce and Beet Horseradish, Seafood Cocktail Sauce and Tartar Sauce.
It exports in several countries especially: Japan, EU and other countries in Europe, Australia.
In the production of products is used: vinegar and fresh and sweet cream.

Videos:

a. History Farm: Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NgFZX8zz1g

b. Today Farm complex and industrie, Eau Claire, WI. Link: c. Farm Harvest, 2017. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOiK-QEu3qc

d. Close - combine harvester Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvRSoEV040

e. How its Made - Horseradish. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZxPWQJ8UrU Summary of all production steps.

3. ' Superior Fresh '' (Salmon and vegetables) - The largest aquaponics vegetable installation in the world is considered. The largest closed-aquaculture salmon producer in the USA. "Superior Fresh" the largest aquaponic vegetable and salmon producer in the World. The fish facility is modern with state-of-the-art technologies, and is attached to the 3-acre glasshouse (1.2 hectares), where they grow various vegetables and herbs.
Reference: https://www.wearegreenbay.com/midwest-f ... re-county/

They grow everything from seeds in their greenhouse under special LED grow lamps, and produce 1.8 million pounds of green leaves each year. Leafy vegetables make their journey from the greenhouse to supermarket shelves in 48 hours.
Website: https://www.superiorfresh.com/
It made it possible to grow fresh herbs and vegetables, even in severe winters in Wisconsin.

Localization - Street view: Near Northfield, Wisconsin:
Link: https://www.google.com.br/maps/@44.4515 ... 312!8i6656
Localization - Google maps: US94, WI121.

Link:
Videos:
1. Farm & industrie. Link:
2. Superior Fresh - Special LED'S. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87n2i2zuMsM

3. More informations production. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihL6RwpKpzA

4. Farm in winter. cenic vegetables area. Link:nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-O3dc0dFJM

5. Drone - Hixton. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpowKlj6xuI
Officially the company is based in the small village of Hixton.

6.Nearest village,Northfield. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYU2MRHd4s
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#88 Post by flight50 » 13 Apr 2021 07:21

@plinio.lisboa.br Very nice finds here. Those buildings are so very ATS worthy. Hopefully the devs consider this stuff when the time is right.
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#89 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 13 Apr 2021 07:31

Thank you my friend @flight50


There are other materials I found. But I also like to share knowledge. Perhaps you can do better research on the issue of the English language domain that you are native, have better success. There is a very interesting agricultural region in New York that deserves research and is called "Pine Island", the region can also be searched for; '' the region of black dirt ''.

It is a very important area, famous for the production of onions. It produces a type of sweet onion, unique to the United States and also worldwide, I believe. There may be few regions that produce onions with these unique characteristics.
I found only this link that can serve as a basis for better research on this region: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2019082 ... irt-onions
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#90 Post by flight50 » 13 Apr 2021 07:40

I'd love for this thread to be a huge factor in ATS. A ton of this stuff could and/or should get implemented into ATS. The agricultural industry should continuously progress with every new map dlc. There is always some new farms and farming crops that can be added to ATS. Especially with the Great Plains coming up. New region, new stuff. The Great Plains are mainly wide open lands with less urban development. That means less large cities and less larger road systems. Trade that in for small towns with more emphasis on more secondary roads. More area to small industry in remote locations of the states.

Then you have the Midwest, the East and the South to all pitch in with different Agriculture. I'm really looking forward a deepend Ag economy.
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