North American Agriculture Discussion

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''Black Dirt Region'' in NEW YORK (state).

#91 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 13 Apr 2021 20:00

''Black Dirt Region'' in NEW YORK (state).

Pine Island - The second largest land mass of fertilized black soil after the ice ages in the current territory of the United States. Satellite images of the area show that the region has about 26,000 acres (10,400 ha) of the "chernozem" type (The type of soil that is the most fertile that can exist on planet Earth, is found for example in Ukraine. The country with the most soils of this type. Another area very famous for having this type of soil is called: '' Mesopotâmia Platina '', which is located between the Paraná River - Rio Paraguay, Rio Uruguay, in South America. Lesser occurrence in Uruguay and Brazil. Finally, another large area of soil of this type is found in Iraq with Mesopotamia - original). they are soils of high agricultural fertility.

The American region is peculiarly humid and organically rich, famous for the cultivation of onions has a natural concentration of natural onions chemicals, due to the chemical characteristics of the soil, the useful life of onions is longer than that of onions in other regions of the USA.

'' The high sulfur content of the soil of thousands of years of composted vegetation raises the levels of pyruvic acid in the onion, which in turn increases the sugar content, resulting in a strong and spicy flavor. make it exceptionally sweet. ''
- BBC Travel. '' New York's beloved 'black dirt' onions ''. CASHMAN, Shane. August 23, 2019.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDJ1I7BIaI4

The region also produces: lettuce, epazote, cabbage, pumpkin, cucumber, tomato, peppers, jalapinos, sunflowers, gladioli, radish, potato, tomato, carrot, Sod / turf (also known as gram. When harvested in rolls, it is held together by its roots and a thin layer of soil. Used for lawns, golf courses, sports stadiums, landscaping (residential, commercial, urban). More info ''Sod- Turf" in USA, link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sod.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps4bBq6isSo

Photos:
Farm: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffs4653 ... otostream/

''Mission land" (land historical sign)
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Reference photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffs4653/7334977742

''Drowned lands "(land historical sign)
Reference photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffs4653 ... otostream/


Reference: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2019082 ... irt-onions

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dirt_Region
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Largest '' red bean '' farm in the world (state - Wisconsin)

#92 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 14 Apr 2021 04:31

Continuing the research, we will present a little about the largest red bean farm and agroindustry in the United States, and also in the world.

''Chippewa Valley Bean''.

This is the largest agricultural company in the United States in the production and processing of '' red beans '', it also has some commercialization and production of '' purple beans ''. Individually, the agricultural company owns the largest red bean production farm in the United States, and holds the title of the largest irrigated red bean production farm, and is the largest individual producer.

Site: https://www.cvbean.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Chippewa-Valle ... 309484465/

It has more than 100 family farms, producers and suppliers of red beans (kidney beans). He grows over 3,500 acres of the farm on his own, and buys beans from farmers. He has farmer suppliers in: Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Indiana. It processes and markets 25% of dark red beans grown in the United States, between 60% and 70% of which are destined for the United Kingdom and Europe.

It also exports to: Switzerland, Austria, Holland, France, Italy. In Italy, beans are canned and resold in other markets. In Asia, Japan stands out as an importer.

The '' Chippewa Valley Bean '' processing unit handles (45,000 tonnes) of beans each year. The company also markets beans and dried peas and sells pre-packaged bean soups.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QT7nq7Y0rM

The largest producer and processor of ''kidney beans'' (dark red beans), in the world on its farm which is named: "Doane Farm '', located in: Menomonie, WI.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQbflNRSi_Y

Google maps farm and factory: https://www.google.com.br/maps/@44.7918 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Street view farm and factory bean ''Red'':
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.785398, ... 312!8i6656

Reference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGQJiaIP3y4

References

1. Reference: https://www.wearegreenbay.com/midwest-f ... re-county/

2. Reference: https://www.wsj.com/articles/cindy-brow ... 1533220705

3. Reference: https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/ ... 5d8bb.html

4. Reference: https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/ ... in-britain

5. Reference: https://chippewa.com/dunnconnect/news/l ... 4150d.html
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#93 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 14 Apr 2021 22:38

Coronado Farms.
Facebok: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Coronado ... 153899079/

Loccalization: Wilcox, Arizona

Coronado Farm is about 18 minutes south of Willcox. the main focus is the development of heifers. Therefore, we obtain all 90-day-old heifers that are born and then transferred to larger groups. keeps 75,000 animals. and milking 7,500 cows twice a day, enough to supply eight trucks that leave this location daily for New Mexico.

Map Farm.
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Most livestock feed is grown on their properties, using a rotating mixture of corn, wheat and alfalfa silage. The plantations are irrigated by about 200 central pivot irrigation systems, which create giant green circles that stand out in sharp contrast to the surrounding dry soil. It has more than 37,000 acres.

Google maps:
https://www.google.com.br/maps/place/Co ... 09.7575251



1 Video Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43SO2WnVbDs


2. Video Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTZvLx1DQFo


References:
a. Reference: https://news.azpm.org/p/news-topical-na ... n-willcox/

b. Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s64WKf3lOII&t=1s
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#94 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 15 Apr 2021 16:33

In Arizona - Bean production "Pinto Bean''
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImXH7eLfLu0


As of 2015, the planted area was about 10,000 acres (including chickpeas). The pinto bean accounted for 4,000 acres. In 2017 the Arizona bean harvest was 5,177 acres and 90% of those acres were in Cochise (2,572 acres) and Graham (2,083 acres) counties. These two municipalities produced 93% of the bean production in the state. The largest producer and grower of beans in Arizona is the company: "Bonita Bean Company '' in Willcox.

Arizona bean growers are concentrated in the Sulfur Springs valley. The area of ​​the bean has as its north point: the village of Bonita. The village of Kansas in the center of the valley, where the 'Bonita Bean Company' 'bean processing plant is located. The southern point of the producing region is south of the town of Elfrida, close to the border with Mexico. (small oval beans, light brown, with light purple hues). It should not be confused with another variety "carioca beans" (medium, oval, light brown beans, with dark brown hooks) from Brazil, although technically it belongs to the group of "pinto" beans.

Pinto beans take about 90-150 days to grow to the point of harvest, and are harvested from June to August. they are suitable for subtropical climates, and they can be tolerant to the Mediterranean climate, they can be sensitive to the cold of other types of climates. Chick beans need long, hot summers with total exposure to the sun for at least 6 hours a day.

It is the most produced bean in the USA and the most popular in America. It is also the one that contains more fiber. The ''pinto bean'' varieties include: Othello bean, Maverick bean, La Paz bean, Windbreaker bean, Alavese bean , carioca bean ...

Website ''Bonita Bean Company'': http://www.bonitabean.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Bonita-Bean-Co ... 727111790/

Street view - ''Bonita Bean Company': 'https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0814611 ... 328!8i1664
Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0814611 ... a=!3m1!1e3


Map - Main bean producing states.
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1.Reference: https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2018/03 ... flagstaff/

2. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinto_bean

3. Reference: https://www.azfb.org/Article/Arizona-Be ... More-Beans

4. Reference: https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Ma ... pintos.php
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#95 Post by nater6540 » 19 Jul 2021 10:54

California is also a large dairy producer as well.
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#96 Post by flight50 » 19 Jul 2021 13:29

Yes there are and I just hope the rebuild reflects a lot more of California's economy. At lot has happened since the base map days and the base map has to benefit from all the newer economy.
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#97 Post by Bedavd » 19 Jul 2021 19:37

I know it's a long while off, but I think Michigan should get some great Agricultural spotlights. We grow a ton of different things out there. Our Agricultural diversity is second only to California. Everything from fruit orchards around Traverse City, to pickling cucumbers in Kalamazoo, sugar beets, soybeans, Christmas trees... you name it we likely grow it! The lakes surrounding the state make for tons of different microclimates that allow different things to grow in different regions of the state.

Fruits grow really well along the Lake Michigan Shoreline, stretching up the western edge of the state from St. Joseph up to the Grand Traverse Bay. Sugar Beets are pretty popularly grown around the "thumb", around Bad Axe and west to Bay City, where the Michigan Sugar Company refines them into table sugar. The middle of the Lower Peninsula is where soybeans, corn, potatoes, and livestock tend to be kept, while the Upper Peninsula's rockier soil makes it better for livestock, timber, and some REALLY good maple syrup. It's super interesting just how may different things are grown there and how traveling any direction a few miles might take you from an amazing place to grow one thing to a fantastic place to grow a completely different thing.

Here's a rundown from MDARD (a great resource I worked with very closely in the past) that goes over the main agricultural products and links to some of the grower's associations for those products. Those associations are great places to go for even more specifics, such as this map from the Michigan Vegetable Council that shows which counties have the highest concentration of vegetable production.

Here's another source from Michigan State University with short videos showcasing just a few of the industries and showing how their growth timelines up to packaging. MSU has a pretty robust agricultural science department that compiles a lot of great statistics that might be useful for crafting the state.
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#98 Post by flight50 » 19 Jul 2021 20:03

Yeah, I'd say that is some diversity. There will be states before Michigan that should get some of these. But for everything not covered by other states, Michigan should get hands down. I know they won't overload a single dlc though as far as new cargo. Spreading it out is the best way. There are tons more states left so they all have to share. I'd love to see each dlc bring 1-2 new or rare crops though.
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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#99 Post by flight50 » 07 Aug 2022 09:30

Its been while since I wrote anything here. But a thought came to mind that I wanted to share. The recent Montana stream provided some insight from Pavel himself. On this stream Pavel mentioned that more focus on features and cargo will come. With SCS heading into the bulk of the Great Plains states and with the current California reworks, Agriculture should be a major focus. So I started thinking as usual.

The thought...........complex prefabs. It was something that was mentioned in a blog a few years back but I've yet to see anything I'd call complex. My idea of complex is what I'm about to share now. To me, complex means multiple of something. In the case of this post, its complex prefabs for agricultural farms. In order to bring a lot of diversity, first off we need a lotttt more farms. Sunshine Crops is all we have now. For this example I'd add 3 more. Farm A, Farm B and Farm C. Below is CA-99 just North of Bakersfield California. But this example can apply anywhere in North America. So with the sketch below you can see roads connecting to CA-99 to industry. If we can get more farms, each farm can be one of 2 things. 1) Dynamic or 2) Static. This can be determined by the mapper themselves.

Option 1 - Dynamic
For this lets say Farms A, B and C are all farms tagged to Bakersfield. Each farm can have a set number of crops also determined by the mapper based on what the asset team sets up. The mapper first establishes the type of farm. Nuts, Fruits or Vegetables. So with dynamic set the mapper determines what type of crop each plot on the farm can be.
Farm A. Nuts. Crop 1 can produce any of the options. Crop 2 can produce any of the options. Crop 3 can produce any of the options. So with the farm set to dynamic, each of these crops can randomly generate what this farm produces. Each time the game loads up, the crops are set based on the options available. So every time you come to this prefab over several days of playing ATS, the farm could look different for each plot on Farm A.

Farm B. Lets say its set to Fruit. So now we get orchids in the mix as well as ground level fruits. Same principles as Farm A but the crops are now Fruit instead of Nuts.

Farm C. Same thing but its now Veggies. Now we can have fields of high grasses or stalks. You could also toss grains into this group or just make a grains category. Doesn't matter how SCS sets it up.

Option 2 - Static
Similar to option 1 but with static now set, the mapper preselects the type of crop depending on the company. Farm A might only have 2 plots of crops. Farm B could have 4 plots and Farm C 7 plots. Now these are just examples so don't assume this pic below must happen. Its brainstorming and thought. So with static, the mapper sets up each of the plots with a particular product. These products are for the life of the prefab unless the dev manually changes it.

So to sum it up, I don't know what is possible to program or create but something to this level of complex is what I'd love to see. I think this type of level of gameplay is long overdue.




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Re: North American Agriculture Discussion

#100 Post by angrybirdseller » 09 Aug 2022 04:17

I remember playing sim-city or tropico series crops would grow on screen like Corn, Papayas, Coffee they grow over time on the screen. I wonder if SCS can pull off dynamic growing of crops like tomatoes, melons, oranges, lemons, cotton, corn, pecans, almonds, olives, lettuce, wheat, soybeans. There are computer games where the crops grow dynamically scs programmers could study this concept test it out in Colorado or Arizona even Washington with the concept. Maybe I am skipping way ahead here, but I think incrementally test this out one crop and see how it works out, and expand this to other crops like corn and wheat possibly forestry.

It has harvest time and crop grows once it ripe and ready pick it up and deliver. This cant be done overnight it will take months and years to integrate in the game world, but it may good idea to test behind closed doors.
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