Idaho Discussion Thread

kduell01
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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2821 Post by kduell01 » 02 Jul 2020 03:23

I don't think we should worry too much. SCS is just trying to keep all the roads exclusively in Idaho. As much as I would love to see I-90 to Missoula I think it would take away one of the larger cities in that state. Idaho is one of the smallest states in the Western US especially when it comes to major roads. I think with Colorado you guys will be a lot more happy with the vast array of different landscapes and roads to drive on, but I also think Idaho looks really nice. I think they made up for the lack of roads with an emphasis on detail and making each town fully feel unique and and look nice. Plus it finally gives a much needed connection with Utah and the Oregon/Washington duo in the Northwest that will defiantly help players feel more open to taking jobs to and fro from Utah through Idaho into Washington or Oregon which will make Utah feel a lot larger as you can take jobs throughout the newest states. In the past you had to travel into a sliver of Arizona just to get to the oldest high quality state New Mexico. Now you can spend a lot of time taking jobs through Utah, Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. After the release of Colorado that area will get even bigger! Hopefully though we can get a rebuild of the base map that brings it up to the standards of the newer DLC's.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2822 Post by Onagerlinn » 02 Jul 2020 04:33

@kduell01 Those are definitely good points, and I'm *really* looking forward to being able to just take I-84 from Utah to the PNW instead of having to go through Winnemucca for the umpteen thousandth time.

What really concerns me about not getting a connection through Montana is that if we don't get it now (and SCS doesn't add the road later as part of an update), we're looking at late 2021 at the absolute earliest to get the Montana DLC; if SCS decides to do Texas before Montana, we could be looking mid-late 2022. That's an awful long wait to get that crucial connection. I guess we could get by with a mod in the meantime, but I really want the real thing.

I think US 93 to US 12 in Lolo wouldn't be a bad compromise? I could live with that.

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That said, I hope ID-28 and ID-33 make the game. It'll give us a more direct route from I-15 to Salmon, gives us a little bit more of I-15 to play with, and I'd like to see Rexburg or the Teton Valley area in the game.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2823 Post by ALT2870 » 02 Jul 2020 04:55

Montana is 99.99% likely to come before Texas. While I know lots want Missoula simply for the I-15 to I-90 connection it just isn't happening. Fact is SCS might hurt a little on this release due to lack of roads. It will partly redeem itself with more greenery then Utah so that will satisfy some. I think that is why part of the reason SCS has started hyping up Colorado, as it is probably the most looked forward to state since Washington so people can more quickly forgive Idaho. I'm on the boat of Wyoming then Montana next year with Texas and probably Oklahoma in 22. (If 2020 doesn't kill us first. lol) After that three map teams are likely.

But getting back on topic, I think we are going to deal with a slightly more sparse state. I've said it before but Idaho's shape with the 1.20 scale isn't a good combo. Either way people will purchase it solely for the I-84 connection if they don't use mods. The reviews will be interesting none the less.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2824 Post by Shiva » 02 Jul 2020 04:57

ads678, how about ID-28?
flight50 wrote:
02 Jul 2020 01:15
I count a solid 9 roads needed to extend into Montana between Idaho and Wyoming.
Those are?
US-2
ID-200/MT-200
I-90 "Idaho/Montana
US-12
US-93
I-15
US-20 "connects to US-287 and US-191"
US-310
I-90 "Wyoming/Montana

US-2 and ID-200/MT-200 Here I suspect only 1 will go between Idaho and Montana. I wish it would have been both.
WY-59/MT-59 is a possibility too, or is this your 9th?
Yeah, I get it to 9 roads too.

Then there is that stretch of US-212 that goes between Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota.

ALT2870, Idaho does have a nice opportunity for forest roads.

/edit:
I saw on google an another alternative way to block small roads.
NTM's B-Double Telescopic Skeletal Container Carrier. Youtube video on how it works. W & S thread.
B-Double trailer and short modes: EN 7.82 swap body, 20’ or 30’ containers.
Standalone 40' mode: EN 7.82 swap body, 20', 30', 40' or 2 x 20' trailer.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2825 Post by ALT2870 » 02 Jul 2020 05:02

Agreed Shiva, lots of possibilities there. I guess the question is do people focus on thru roads more though?

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2826 Post by Shiva » 02 Jul 2020 05:05

No clue.
That logging camp so close and west / northwest of Sandpoint was a surprise. Especially that close to Sandpoint.
NTM's B-Double Telescopic Skeletal Container Carrier. Youtube video on how it works. W & S thread.
B-Double trailer and short modes: EN 7.82 swap body, 20’ or 30’ containers.
Standalone 40' mode: EN 7.82 swap body, 20', 30', 40' or 2 x 20' trailer.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2827 Post by fra_ba » 02 Jul 2020 05:25

Onagerlinn wrote:
02 Jul 2020 04:33
I think US 93 to US 12 in Lolo wouldn't be a bad compromise? I could live with that.
Actually it's a good alternative and I mentioned that before unless SCS decides to add Hamilton as a marked city for Montana dlc

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2828 Post by ads678 » 02 Jul 2020 06:05

@Shiva ID-28? I don't expect it.

Most obvious shortcut to Salmon from Northern Idaho & Washington is ID-55/CH-17/ID-21, but SCS didn't add CH-17. I-90 to Missoula is not there either. So the only possible route is US-12/US-93 through Lolo,MT, which would make the map look much better and more complete. Without it there will be a lot of complaints because of that huge gap.

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2829 Post by flight50 » 02 Jul 2020 06:23

@Shiva. Close, but my list of 9 are:
  • US-2
  • I-90 Idaho side
  • US-93
  • I-15
  • US-12
  • US-20
  • US-191
  • US-310
  • I-90 Wyoming side
  • MT-59/WY-59
Its actually 10. I forgot about the small portion of US-20. I think the East side of the state is isolated in which this 59 road could be a shortcut from Gillette, Wy.

US-212 once South Dakota comes later.

ID-200 MT-200 I didn't consider with US-2 being so close. I am not sure if the mountain models will allow MT-200 to squeeze in between both I-90 and US-2. I'll definitely take it though.

I have been the main advocate for the I-90 to US-93 connection. We don't have to go to I-15. US-93 would be the perfect box up for Northern Idaho. I have my doubts as well. But I can still hope. As Onagerlinn mentioned and something I brought up the other day is we have to wait 1-2 years just to box up Northern Idaho if we don't get to Missoula/Lolo. That's a seriously long wait for a small portion of road that most everyone in this thread will own anyways. Whether you get I-90 to US-93 with Idaho or with Montana, you will end up buying both states anyways. Otherwise you wouldn't be in this thread. Its a no brainier how large Montana is. It will be packed with more both more roads and cities than Idaho. 1 city won't kill Montana if Missoula/Lolo came with Idaho instead.

Put it this way, if SCS did bring Missoula/Lolo in with Idaho, how many of you all wouldn't buy Idaho until Montana comes?

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Re: Idaho Discussion Thread

#2830 Post by angrybirdseller » 02 Jul 2020 06:31

All buy Idaho regardless if comes with city in Montana or not. Very likely Montana will come with more cities and roads than Idaho and Utah.

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