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Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 14:33
by flight50
Helena and Butte will both exist. There is 68 miles in between the two. With all the curves I-15, it shouldn't be an issue imo. Iirc, Nampa/Boise and Spokane/CDA are half the distance between Helena and Butte. I don't see many issues with anything being too close until we get to I-35 and beyond for mapped cities. SCS has shown they will add major cities that are close without hesitation. At 1:20 scale, its either take it or leave it.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 14:57
by MT269
That distance amounts to around 3.4 miles of actual driving in-game. But modeling the outskirts of both areas will certainly cause the gap to diminish. I think with this gap, one could almost fit another town in between.

When they are less than 20 miles apart, it makes it awkward.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 15:24
by flight50
I think 30-35 miles in real life is the limit. Anything greater should be okay. For the East coast, it could be an issue if there are 2 or more larger towns that really spread out if are too close to one another.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 17:20
by Xaagon
I just checked out ID/MT-200 on google streetview. This looks awesome! I hope they can work it into ATS.

With the northeast I can see them having one town almost running into the next town with very little gap in-between, especially in that crowded corridor between Philadelphia and Boston.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 19:21
by flight50
I agree in the Northeast. I think distances like Spokane to CDA and Nampa to Boise is what happens. But instead of those size city's we are probably looking at (2) Vegas's side by side if they fit. DC and Baltimore are the two main close proximity issues. But I don't see any other way. From Richmond I-95 all the way into Boston should be like that. But that is perhaps 8-10 years from now.

Montana wise though, I see it being a very peaceful dlc just like Wyoming. Montana is actually the 3rd largest US state in the lower 48 but it will fell larger than California though because of how open it will be. It will definitely look better because its a new dlc. But I look forward to Montana because of all the space the Eastern portion of the state has. Talk about Great Plains. West of I-15 we get Great Plains that is about the size of Oregon. Other things I like about Montana of that more of I-90and a very lengthy bit of it to. Montana surely helps out Idaho more than anything. It bridges I-15 and US-93. Two debated roads in the Idaho threads.

If we don't get US-2 from Sandpoint to Kalispell, I'll be a little disappointed honestly. We are missing US-2 from Spokane or from Coleville to Sandpoint. We may or may not get that but I surely hope we can get from Sandpoint to Northwestern Montana. Kalispell is too big of a city to miss.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2020 01:54
by Xaagon
ID/MT-200 is much more scenic, but US-2 makes more sense to include with ATS. We definitely need it east of Kalispell.

I think we get US-2 and Bonners' Ferry as a scenic town with Montana DLC. It makes sense that they would at some point continue US-95 as Idaho's connection to Canada.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:30
by flight50
I too think BF is scenic and we get US-2 from it to access that part of Montana. Depending on the mountain models, we could get I-90, MT-200 and US-2 all running parallel for a quick portion of the state. I really hope Montana gives us a lot of roads miles. If Oregon got us 5,000 miles, Montana should get us 6,000-6500. Montana has just as many roads as Oregon and is just open as Oregon is but its a much larger state too.

We get a lot of major routes outside the obvious Interstates. US-2, US-12, MT-200, US-191, MT-59, US-287 and US-89. We might get US-87 as well. All these roads really stretch out across the state in all directions. So its a nice spread of roads for sure. That's pretty much all the roads in Montana actually. US-212 is about the main one that is 50/50. It could come later if not day one release.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:59
by Xaagon
I think it's also possible we could even get MT-5. It looks like it might be an important connection for northwest North Dakota.

Edit: Scratch that - I was looking at my map zoomed too far out and thought it went farther west in Montana than it does.

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:16
by krizzy090
i hope montana is gonna be great one of the larger state's ranked 4

California on 3
texas on 2
and alaska on 1 But will they do alaska? i would love alaska it is Big tho 665,384.0 Sq. Miles
texas is almost 400k less sitting at 268,596.5 Sq. Miles

Re: Montana Discussion Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:29
by flight50
Alaska is huge but it really has no road compared to Texas. Square miles means nothing really as SCS only cares and maps roads that we can drive on. Alaska is mostly empty.