ATS 1.41 discussion

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Re: ATS 1.41 Open Beta discussion

#1771 Post by flight50 » 16 Jun 2021 15:27

^You are referring to bobtailing. The one I noticed is the glitch with the dolly but yes I agree. Bobtails should be apart of the game. It was noted that people complained about them and SCS removed them unfortunately. Just like they removed the moon and the retarder. But for some reason, they brought the retarder back and its the one thing that does not exist in North America really on big rigs. But bobtails and the moon does exist and they were removed :evil: . I strongly disagree with that decision to have removed them in the first place. I had to make a mod to bring them back but bobtails happen all the time in and out of the city.
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Re: ATS 1.41 Open Beta discussion

#1772 Post by J.Random » 16 Jun 2021 15:32

I recall somebody explaining that most of Allison transmissions must have a retarder because they don't (IRL) and shouldn't (in-game) work with engine brake (something about torque converter turbine being able to apply force only in one direction).
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#1773 Post by Trucker_71 » 16 Jun 2021 15:47

flight50 wrote: 16 Jun 2021 15:27 they brought the retarder back and its the one thing that does not exist in North America really on big rigs.
Actually I drove a Freightliner Columbia for a year or so that had some kind of Mercedes engine in it, it had a retarder. Initially it scared the crap out of me running the mountains here in BC but I soon discovered it actually worked as good as a jake except it was too quiet! :lol:
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Re: ATS 1.41 Open Beta discussion

#1774 Post by flight50 » 16 Jun 2021 15:51

I never looked into it but from being on here and seeing what people post, the Allisons that have them are buses and non class 8 trucks with fifth wheels. If retarders are so uncommon on NA trucks but the moon is a constant real life natural element and with bobtails being quite common, I don't see why the more realistic things mentioned can't be in the game.
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#1775 Post by plykkegaard » 16 Jun 2021 16:26

You have the moon, it is the new moon cycle though rather than the full moon years back

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Re: ATS 1.41 Open Beta discussion

#1776 Post by flight50 » 16 Jun 2021 16:49

New moon doesn't work. We need more night time ambient lighting. If not a full moon, we need Crescent, Quarter or Gibbous at least. Preferable Quarter or Gibbous though.
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Re: ATS 1.41 Open Beta discussion

#1777 Post by bryntrollian » 16 Jun 2021 17:05

flight50 wrote: 16 Jun 2021 15:27 But for some reason, they brought the retarder back and its the one thing that does not exist in North America really on big rigs.
It's just the USA, trucks in Canada have had retarders optionally available.
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#1778 Post by flight50 » 16 Jun 2021 17:07

Thanks for the correction.
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#1779 Post by natvander » 16 Jun 2021 21:58

A little off topic, but I’ve always found the anti-retarder arguments a laugh. After reading numerous articles and forums I’ve come to the conclusion that there must be no mountains or heavy trucks in Europe (or anywhere else where retarders and/or European trucks are used).
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#1780 Post by plykkegaard » 16 Jun 2021 23:44

Different approach to the same "problem"
Please note the engine break is prohibited to use many places in Europe

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