ATS 1.41 discussion

[plykkegaard]

You don't think it would be odd to remove teleport by F9 / Ctrl-F9?
Well each to his own

[GinXeng]

Dev tools are totally different from cheats. Beside they are not going to remove it, they already gave us F9 / Ctrl-F9, why go through the trouble of making that extra coding just to remove it later.

[xXCARL1992Xx]

no it wouldnt, because the majority wouldnt care about it, the console has no meaning for the normal player because cheats dont exist like 18WoS had them, so they dont even bother to even activate dev tools

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no, dev tools are not different, cheats ARE dev tools, they are deliberately implemented so developer can test the game without grinding

[xCrazyDogx]

if they would remove dev tools but dont think they will i would miss it cause even with detours and roadworks and all turned off i still have those blocking my only road to deliverypoint... sooooooooo only reason i use Ctrl+f9 / f9 to teleport over the blocking parts to get my delivery done.
(was nearly explaining why i use the dev tools, im not concerned at all.)

[GinXeng]

Dont worry its not going anywhere, one person made an assumption and now everyone is rattled up about as if its official or anything.

[plykkegaard]

Not in the slightest

[Vinnie Terranova]

the console has no meaning for the normal player

It doesn't matter wether the console has meaning for the normal player or not. What matters is wether the console has meaning for the 'abnormal' player or not. I'm a modder and therefore I consider myself as an abnormal player. And yes, I use the console a lot; not only while using mods, but also while playing vanilla. And yes, I'm certainly not the only one who uses the console.

cheats ARE dev tools

What kind of cheats are you talking about? I've created a No Damage mod which I consider as a cheat. I also created a Money and XP Cheat mod, which certainly is a cheat. But I don't need the console for those cheats. Besides that, there are more ways to cheat without the console. For instance, you can change "g_fuel_simulation" from 1 to 0 to have realistic fuel consumption (1) or unrealistic fuel consumption (0). You can just edit this value in the config.cfg file within the profile folder of the profile you actually use.
Two different kinds of cheating without using the console...

[xXCARL1992Xx]

those are not cheats, those are modification to the game, cheats are implemented shortcuts from developers to access stuff without playing the game, get a truck spawned instantly without buying it, get money instantly without taking jobs, spawning a job instantly without searching for one, unlocking all skill without gaining skill points, unlocking all dealers/driver agency without looking for them, unlocking all drivers etc. 18WoS had a ton of them to shortcut the whole game, ETS2 and ATS have none

[scaniaman0102]

Really, the antialiasing problem has started to become very annoying now, everything in the game is shaky and jagged. I was thinking that an antialiasing update would come in 1.41, but it didn't. Let them solve this problem now, this problem turns people off from the game.

[GinXeng]

those are not cheats, those are modification to the game, cheats are implemented shortcuts from developers to access stuff without playing the game, get a truck spawned instantly without buying it, get money instantly without taking jobs, spawning a job instantly without searching for one, unlocking all skill without gaining skill points, unlocking all dealers/driver agency without looking for them, unlocking all drivers etc. 18WoS had a ton of them to shortcut the whole game, ETS2 and ATS have none

You're talking about an era where most games back in the days had cheats, todays game developers don't even bother with cheats anymore as its not worth their time, they would rather put the resources into further game development like DLC and lootcrates.