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#71 Post by supersobes » 17 Jul 2021 21:49

Due to the lower deck, step decks are particularly useful for tall objects that would be overheight if placed on a regular flatbed.
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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#72 Post by flight50 » 17 Jul 2021 22:25

supersobes wrote: 17 Jul 2021 21:44 Since the Big Idaho Potato is built on a double step deck trailer, SCS already has most of the work done for adding these trailers to the game. I wonder if that means we could potentially see them added in 1.42.
They should add it but only if new cargo comes with it. The current flatbed cargo would look very silly. But you know what would work perfect for this trailer? New crated cargo, tarped cargo of tall equipment and use it for glass. We saw Texas will introduce glass companies to ATS. All that trailer needs is a glass mounting bracket. Bolt it down to that trailer viola. . Glass hauler.

We have double step deck lowboys in the game. If they gave us that double step deck flatbed, we need at least a dozen cargoes to go with it. The current cargo doesn't justify the add. We'd need tall tarped cargo and crated cargo. Very easy models to make compared to equipment. All 3d modeled cargo we get in ATS can be hauled on the current lowboys, double step deck lowboy, double step deck flatbed, flatbeds or a new single step deck if all were added. We need more cargo anyways. We need that single step deck though for more diversity. Especially with the farming and construction industries. Of all the pics I have posted, the double step deck flatbed is the least common though but ATS could make use of it.

I'd rather have a single step deck flatbed vs a double step deck flatbed still unless they made new cargo. I've never seen a double step deck flatbed used alike a flatbed or single step deck. A loader would have to put spacers in the entire well and the driver has to seriously strap down that load with 3 decks to work about. Most loaders wouldn't load such when they can just load a flatbed or a single step deck. Too much work for the double step deck flatbed in real life for current ATS cargoes. Much easier to just use the drop on a single step deck and not load the front plate, or if you do load the front plate, its not loaded as tall as what's on the main deck. But the space can be utilized.
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#73 Post by supersobes » 17 Jul 2021 23:26

I think some of the current flatbed cargoes could work as well. The lumber and the concrete storm drain pipes would look fine on a step deck, and it wouldn't require modeling any new cargoes. It would definitely be nice if they added more cargoes for it in the future, but for an initial release, using existing cargoes would be good to get the trailer out the door and in the hands of the players, especially since most of the trailer is already made in the form of the event trailer.

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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#74 Post by J.Random » 18 Jul 2021 00:04

I'd say what we need is something like this:
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Cargo: most if not all of the flatbed cargo (excluding standard dock height origins/destinations), light machinery (forklifts, roller, light tractor, etc.), container cargo (probably excluding hazmat, no idea).
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#75 Post by supersobes » 18 Jul 2021 00:08

The Landoll trailers are the ones with the tilting decks. They're made for hauling vehicles and light machinery. It's more like a tow truck than a flatbed or step deck trailer.
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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#76 Post by flight50 » 18 Jul 2021 00:22

@supersobes The picture you just posted is a single step deck. Not a double. Most of ATS cargo is not suited for a double stepdeck flatbed. That load would look silly on the trailer we just got from Idaho. That type of cargo would not be on a double step deck. Hay is for flatbeds or single step decks like the pic you posted. Double step decks would be more or less for equipment of some fashion. There are a few examples in the ATS flatbed thread here sprinkled in with flatbeds and single step decks. viewtopic.php?f=185&t=260755&start=10 on this page. None have hay though.

Tilt trailers are already requested here, viewtopic.php?p=1163102#p1163102. So SCS is aware. They are somewhat of a specialized trailer though. To me, its more worthy of a paid dlc vs core content. We have lowboys as core content. Tilt trailers are for things with wheels or tracks, nothing else. The deck is a rolling deck.
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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#77 Post by J.Random » 18 Jul 2021 00:25

So? What would stop you from using it as a flatbed? Actually, I'm not even sure about "light" now. Apparently, there are variants with rails embedded into the deck: https://landoll.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... s-0419.pdf
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#78 Post by flight50 » 18 Jul 2021 00:28

A flatbed nor a single step deck isn't designed for that type of weight. Some step decks do have ramps but it would be for light equipment though.

Yes, some have rails. That is part of this post for train equipment. viewtopic.php?p=1134043#p1134043
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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#79 Post by supersobes » 18 Jul 2021 00:32

@flight50 I understand the difference between double and single step decks. But I don't see ATS only getting one or the other. If they get added, I'm thinking both will come because of how similar they are.

@J.Random The Landoll trailer doesn't have strapping points on the side like a flatbed or step deck does. It only has holes in the deck for chaining equipment down.
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Re: ATS 1.42 speculation thread

#80 Post by J.Random » 18 Jul 2021 00:37

I mean...
Tie Down

Flush Mounted Straight D-Ring (Not Available for Web Mount)
Angled D-Rings (Mounted under Top Flange Outer Beam)
Low Profile Strap Ratchet
3-Bar Strap Ratchet
J-Hook (Opposite side of Ratchet)
Stake Pocket (Opposite side of Ratchet)
Chain Rub Rail (per Foot) (Setting Price based on 440-53 length)

Upper Deck
Upper Deck Center Keyhole Tie Downs Flush with Wood
Upper Deck Corner Mounted D-Ring Tie Downs on Top Flange – 2 Front Corner
Upper Deck Corner Mounted D-Ring Tie Downs on Top Flange – 4 Corner
Upper Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side
Upper Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side (Heavy Duty Gooseneck)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Stake Pockets (Inside Web, Under Every Gotcha)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Angled D-Rings (Mounted under Top Flange, 2 per Side)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (2 Alternating)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (3 Alternating) (Heavy Duty Gooseneck Only)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (2 Alternating)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (3 Alternating) (Heavy Duty Gooseneck Only)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (2 Alternating)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (3 Alternating) (Heavy Duty Gooseneck Only)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (2 Alternating)
Upper Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (3 Alternating) (Heavy Duty Gooseneck Only)

Lower Deck
Lower Deck Center Keyhole Tie Downs Flush with Wood
Lower Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side (440A-41)
Lower Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side (440A-48)
Lower Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side (440A-50CA)
Lower Deck Chain/Rub Rails for Both Street and Curb Side (440A-53)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Stake Pockets (Inside Web, Under Every Other Gotcha)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Angled D-Rings (Mounted under Top Flange, 6 per Side)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Angled D-Rings (Mounted under Top Flange, 10 per Side)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Angled D-Rings (Mounted under Top Flange, 16 per Side) (53′ Models Only)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (6 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (11 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (16 Alternating) (53′ Models Only)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (6 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (11 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – Low Profile Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (16 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (6 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (11 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with J-Hook Opposite (16 Alternating) (53′ Models Only)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (6 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (11 Alternating)
Lower Deck Web Mounted Tie Downs – 3-Bar Strap Ratchet with Stake Pocket Opposite (16 Alternating) (53′ Models Only)
Which one do/can they not have?
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