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Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 17:10
by Tails
I dont plan on shooting for 4k at the moment and mostly planning on playing more high end PC games with my new gaming PC.

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 17:29
by xXCARL1992Xx
i would wait with the 3070, nvidia has still something they didnt show and Lenovo suspiciously removed a gaming rig that included a 3070TI with 16GB Vram, doesnt need to mean anything but i wouldnt go buy one just yet, let them release everything they have first

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 18:48
by Some newbie driver
Reignman wrote: 08 Sep 2020 15:35I hope you're right, but prices haven't moved yet. If I remember correctly, the 30 series won't actually hit the market until October, so ohhh boy that means I might have to wait another month lol.
The prices will start to drop, specially on second hand, once the new cards will be on sale. It's expected the 3080 to be released September 17th but the more expected 3070 (that will be the most wide purchased) will arrive in mid October, that's right.

About the AMD versions of CPUs, way better a 3600XT than a 3700X/3800X. The two XT models are the newer ones and have a way better turbo-clock speed for single core of 4,7GHz that helps a lot in tasks that doesn't require lots of cores. That makes smaller the gap in that kind of performance regarding the Intel counterparts. So, with a 3600 you have enough cores, then it's better the extra cost to be put on better clock speed than on more cores.

Regards

PS: As I've seen said in several places, if NVidia releases a 3070Ti (or super or whatever) for a few more bucks that the 3070 not so far after have sold tons of 3070; they are going to make very angry a lot of people. That "mistake" in the Lenovo's web is causing lots of suspicions on people wanting to go for the 3070 (that is in the nice spot for performance/price of the 30 series announced so far).

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 20:50
by plykkegaard
xXCARL1992Xx wrote: 08 Sep 2020 17:29 .. Lenovo suspiciously removed a gaming rig that included a 3070TI with 16GB Vram
Apparently Nvidia has severe heat issues with the new memory modules

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 23:18
by Reignman
You guys will love this. I found the receipt for the first PC I ever built back in 1992.

386DX 33Mhz 64k ... that's right, the DX and not the wimpy SX, but no idea what the 64k refers to
5¼ and 3½ inch floppy drives
105MB HDD
14" SVGA monitor ($99)
512k VGA video card
4MB RAM
2 serial ports
Dr. DOS 6.0 (no windows) - downgraded to MS DOS 5.0 later and installed Windows 3.1
I believe I installed a 14k or 28k modem later on too

Unfortunately it doesn't break the price down per part other than the monitor, but the total was $1694 + $99 for the monitor + tax = $1804. By far the most I ever paid for a PC.

I found another receipt from Best Buy for a pre-built VPR Matrix in 2002.

Pentium 4 2.0GHz
DVD and CD drives
100GB HDD
256MB RAM
integrated graphics
56k modem

$899 plus I had an additional 256MB of RAM installed for $100 lol. I still have that HDD in a box somewhere so I'll have to plug it in one of these days to find out what I was up to back then haha.

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 23:33
by Reignman
plykkegaard wrote: 08 Sep 2020 20:50
xXCARL1992Xx wrote: 08 Sep 2020 17:29 .. Lenovo suspiciously removed a gaming rig that included a 3070TI with 16GB Vram
Apparently Nvidia has severe heat issues with the new memory modules
Makes sense. The 3090 has a 350W TDP, the 3080 320W, but the 3070 is only 220W. The 2080ti is at 250W. Meanwhile the 2060 that I want is at 160W haha. I was worried the 600W PSU I just bought wouldn't be good enough for the 30 series, but that 3070 is still in the zone even though 650W is recommended. But I won't have to worry about that for a few years.
Some newbie driver wrote: 08 Sep 2020 18:48It's expected the 3080 to be released September 17th but the more expected 3070 (that will be the most wide purchased) will arrive in mid October, that's right.
Ok yep, just saw the release schedule. 17th for the 3080, 24th for the 3090, and October for the 3070. They're preying on the people who can't wait by selling the more expensive ones first lol.

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 23:54
by GT182
Here's what I just built and it's kind of inline with yours Reignman.

Msi Mag 550 Tomahawk AMD mother board - this board includes 7.1 Surround Sound
AMD Rizen 5 3.6GH to 4.2GHs cpu
PNY GEFORCE 1650 GTX 4GB GDDR6 Overclocked and DirectX 12 compatible.
Vengeance DDR4 3200 MHz (2-1600 cards)
1 Seagate 2TB Ironwood HDD... and 1 Seagate 1TB SSD
Corsair H80i v2 Liquid cooling
Corsair 750 watt power supply

The motherboard, Corsair PSU, Corsair Liquid cooling, and both HDDs were all purchased from Micro Center. List of their stores.... https://www.mystore411.com/store/listin ... -locations.
The rest from that place I call Worst Buy... where you find less that costs you more.

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 08:20
by angrybirdseller
If your playing 1080p one monitor only need 60-100 the fps on the monitor 2060 will be plenty of horsepower. The new Nivida 30rx gpu need new power supply you need a lot disposable income 😄

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 08:33
by plykkegaard
Why a new PSU?
For the RTX 3070 or 3060 you can get by with 650W
You will need new cables or adapters though

Re: Potential New PC Build, Thoughts?

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 08:48
by angrybirdseller
Sure, you can run 3070 on 600 watt psu along with 3060, but 3080 and 90 you need spending $1000 to $1500 just for gpu and power supply. If your not playing at 4K or triple monitors would not bother with 30 RX series