[WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1112 Post by TexasWhirlwind » 16 Apr 2021 22:44

No Dan If I put the 2 Montana mods in it wont let me look to the right on the game maps. With out Montana It lets me look to the right on the maps..

Montana_Canadream_RC
Montana_Expansion_v0.9.9.6
CanaDream_v2.40.1
Coast_to_Coast_v2.11.14

No other map mods...
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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1113 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 17 Apr 2021 07:24

The problem is that both Montana Expansion and Montana_Canadream RC use the default map_data.sii...
There are several solutions you can choose to fix this:
- Use an ATS background mod from the RoExtended website
- Delete map_data.sii from both Montana_Expansion_v0.9.9.6.scs and Montana_Canadream_RC.scs
- Copy the values from ui_map_camera_min and ui_map_camera_max within the map_data.sii file from Coast_to_Coast_v2.11.14.scs or CanaDream_v2.40.1.scs and put them in Montana_Canadream_RC.scs

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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1114 Post by MirM » 17 Apr 2021 07:26

@TexasWhirlwind

Open: "Montana_Canadream_RC.scs"
find file: def/map_data.sii

and rename the file, e.g. ## map_data.sii

Save change.

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Please check "map_data.sii" in the connector "Montana Canadream RC.scs". ;)

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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1115 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 17 Apr 2021 07:34

@MirM That's not gonna solve his problem, as Montana_Expansion_v0.9.9.6.scs still would have the default map_data.sii, which will be used if the map_data.sii file from just Montana_Canadream_RC.scs is renamed/deleted.

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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1116 Post by MirM » 17 Apr 2021 08:11

I agree,
I assumed @TexasWhirlwind had changed the file in "Montana_Expansion_v0.9.9.6.scs" before and it did not have the expected effect.

In my opinion "map_data.sii" is not needed either in "Montana Canadream RC.scs" or in "Montana_Expansion_v0.9.9.x.scs".

The file "map_data.sii" may also be in other mods, and without its game.log we don't know that.

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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1117 Post by xRECONLOBSTERx » 17 Apr 2021 19:26

Not sure what the issue is with not using the map BG from BenganJ in the RoEx forums, its pretty sweet BG. That's all I use so I guess I have not had an issue, but I will look at it tomorrow.
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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1118 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 17 Apr 2021 20:07

The real 'problem' is this: several map mods, including Montana Expansion and Montana CanaDream RC, use map_data.sii. That file contains values for ui_map_camera_min and ui_map_camera_max:
- ui_map_camera_min (a, b), where (a, b) are the coordinates of the upper left corner of the visible map
- ui_map_camera_max (c, d), where (c, d) are the coordinates of the lower right corner of the visible map

Now, here's the deal: the default coordinates only show the basemap and the SCS DLCs, because there is nothing to see east of NM and CO yet, as SCS hasn't created states east of NM and CO yet. But a mod like C2C does contain states east of NM and CO... So especially ui_map_camera_max (c, d) has to be changed, as those coordinates 'control' the visible area of the map. Therefore mods like C2C and CanaDream has altered ui_map_camera_max (c, d), so that the lower right corner of the visible map is shifted more to the east, so that the states east of NM and CO can be seen on the map.

Now, here's an other deal: load order of map mods. Most map mods contain this map_data.sii file. But due to the load order all values within map_data.sii are overwritten by the values of the map_data.sii file of the map mod with the highest load order. In this case the map mod with the highest load order is "Montana Canadream RC.scs". And this mod uses the default values of the map_data.sii file that comes with ATS v1.40. So the altered values of map_data.sii of C2C and CanaDream are overwritten with the default values. So the lower right corner is shifted back to the west. And that means that the states east of NM and CO are not visible anymore.

The background mod also contains the map_data.sii file, with altered values for ui_map_camera_min (a, b) and ui_map_camera_max (c, d). As the background mod must have the highest load order, the values within map_data.sii from the background mod will overwrite all other values of all other map_data.sii files. Which is a good thing. But if you don't use this background mod, then it's possible that a map mod with a default map_data.sii will cause problems with viewing the whole map, including states east of NM and CO. In this case this happened as @TexasWhirlwind didn't use a background mod, so the values of the map_data.sii file within Montana Canadream RC.scs is loaded...
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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1119 Post by xRECONLOBSTERx » 17 Apr 2021 20:11

Hmmm, thought was using the same map_data as C2C? I might have swapped them when Montana was apart of C2C, and there was a standalone version as well. I'm tracking now @Vinnie Terranova
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Re: [WIP][REL] - Montana Expansion - Updated 04/02/2021

#1120 Post by MirM » 17 Apr 2021 21:48

@xRECONLOBSTERx

While working in the editor, check the sector connections:

(sec-0006-0012); -23795.5; 224.786; -45370.8; 1.33848; -0.36584
(sec-0009-0015); -32145.9; 177.029; -59902; -0.203141; -0.246033

You'll know what's going on; the first sector in addition the movement of AI vehicles. ;)

EDIT:
My mistake, the sector (sec-0006-0012) belongs to the C2C map.

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