Freightliner Trucks by XBS

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#761 Post by Trucker_71 » 25 Sep 2020 05:59

I remember it was rated at 425 hp. :shock:

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#762 Post by xTHANATOPSISx » 25 Sep 2020 06:15

@Trucker_71 It would have been a B or C model. If it was 460 it was a C. Up to 425 could have been either if my information is right. Most 425s I've seen surviving have been B models. No idea on production numbers though. Either could be PEEC as far as I know. I believe PEEC was basically an electronic throttle rather than a mechanical linkage. Both PEEC and non-PEEC were still mechanical injection (Bosch pumps I think). That stuff is before my time so I'm not 100% on some of that.

@jackpeterbilt It's my understanding that there were two displacements for the 3406E. 14.6l (5.4" bore x 6.5" stroke) and 15.8l (5.5" bore and 6.7" stroke). The 14.6l engine was rated up to 550hp while the 15.8 was rated 550-600hp. The C15 (6NZ) had the same displacement as the smaller 3406E while the larger displacement was named the C16 (7CZ). Not until the ACERT generation (BXS, MXS, NXS, SDP prefixes in the US I believe) did the C15 increase to 15.2l (5.4" bore and 6.75" stroke). For the ACERT C15s the 600hp+ rated engines had lower static compression than the engines rated up to 550hp. There were no C16 ACERT engines. There was a MBN C15 from 02 to 04 emissions as well that was the 14.6l displacement. These were know colloquially as "bridge motors" and generally regarded as troublesome and poor performers both in driveability and economy. The joke was that MBN stood for "more bad news". With some parts and a little effort MBNs could be converted into a 6NZ (the prior C15) configuration and would run well. The two were internally generally similar but I believe the MBN used different injectors, turbo and secondary fuel filter housings. Possibly camshafts as well.

I don't know all this off the top of my head. I know a lot of it, and know that there are differences, though I often have to go back and look for the actual numbers to be sure. Official data is a little harder to find these days since CAT doesn't offer on-highway truck engines in the US at all any more. It can take a few minutes to track down specs and some of the data I've found comes from Aus/NZ. It appears accurate to my recollection so I think it's correct but there could be something I missed due to non-US market differences. I'm about 99% sure it's all good though.

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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#763 Post by Robinicus » 25 Sep 2020 10:31

Prefix's are what you look for on mechanical as well; 8TC (JWAC) & 4MG (JWAC & ATAAC) were 3406B, 3ZJ up to around serial number 15,500 (IIRC) were 3406B and then the 3ZJ was the 3406C mechanical....those are the more desirable mechanicals as they have the wider journal crank that upped the rod bearing roll in requirement to 500K miles to match the crank bearing roll in and they also had the newer helical timing advance. Some of those late 3ZJ B engines from about S/N 10,000 up were not good, they were built by management when Cat was on strike and many had issues in them.

Cat fuel pumps were made by Cat, not Bosch, they used some Bosch licenced technology but are very different than a standard P pump.

The early PEECs were a 2EK prefix and were a nightmare, the 4CK prefix were a lot better on the electronic side; they used BTMs to control the rack and the timing advance. If they were setup properly they were very strong, the timing advance in the C electronic had a 2:1 ratio compared to the C mechanical which made them very responsive. One of the bigger downsides working on them (even at the time but especially now) was any rating changes on them required electronic hardware changes, the PROMs were physical chips and not just flash files like on the 5EK (or any ADAM 2 ECM onward).
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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#764 Post by ArTrailfanRaf214 » 25 Sep 2020 14:01

When was this topic added back? I just noticed it.
Anyways good thing XBS and the SCS moderators decided to bring it back, looking forward to the 1st Gen Cascadia it looks very much realistic.
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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#765 Post by BK Vissers » 25 Sep 2020 14:40

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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#766 Post by Razor12999 » 27 Sep 2020 23:20

Hello question about this mod can I use it on ets2? I know that this is ats mod but I’m just wondering. Thanks!!

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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#767 Post by ILovford » 28 Sep 2020 00:53

Hey xbs hows the Ford Ltl 9000 doing?

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#768 Post by ArTrailfanRaf214 » 28 Sep 2020 03:22

XBS is making a Ford LTL? afaik XBS hasen't teased any of his screenshots on ford trucks.
The modder who is making the Ford LTL is BrianC.
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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#769 Post by ILovford » 28 Sep 2020 03:33

Its on his autocar page.

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Re: Freightliner Trucks by XBS

#770 Post by oscar_s » 29 Sep 2020 17:08

Razor12999 wrote:
27 Sep 2020 23:20
Hello question about this mod can I use it on ets2? I know that this is ats mod but I’m just wondering. Thanks!!
you can find the ets2 version here mate https://www.xbsmods.tk/ets2
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