Portugal pre-research tips

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#141 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 16 Apr 2021 16:35

Good afternoon, young man. @dsf.fernando

The highway that crosses Vila Nova de Cerveira is the N13 that runs along the River Minho, the northern border of Portugal. We can even think of a route without taking the coast and connecting some very interesting cities in this extreme north of Portugal.

Just to continue talking about something very important and curious, which I believe most people don't know. (I also didn't know until yesterday).

The smallest international vehicle and pedestrian crossing bridge is at IBERIA !!!

It unites Spain with Portugal in '' El Marco '', near the city called '' La Codosera '', a municipality in Extremadura, Spain
''Marco '' is also the name of the community on the Portuguese side, a district of the municipality of ''Arronches'', in Alto Aletejo, Portugal.

For those who were curious ok ....
the link on Google Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1809421 ... 3?hl=pt-br
the link on Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1809922 ... 6?hl=pt-br


The smallest international bridge in the world measures only: 3.2 meters long and 1.45 wide, it is above the Abrilongo stream.
No car goes by, obviously. Yes, it is perfect for connecting the two countries on foot or by bicycle.
On both sides there are old-fashioned markers, in typical stone with the '' E '' (Spain) and the '' P '' (Portugal).

Okay, but everything can also be used for the ETS2 game, correct. Very close to this location there is a functional cross-border active highway that allows a secondary route, and which is also perhaps the smallest active international highway bridge, with a flow of trucks and other vehicles.
Street view: you can see how the small bridge See on the other side the sign of the European Union welcoming you in Portugal.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1807478 ... 6?hl=pt-br Access is a branch of the highwayBAV-5004.

Now a view from the perspective of the '' driver '' on Portuguese soil, observing the European Union's welcome sign on Spanish soil. Also note one of the smallest active road bridges on the planet.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1804835 ... 6?hl=pt-br The road access is made in the city of Arroches through the so-called '' Rua de Arronches ''. Actually functional highway is an extension of the N371 highway. Go straight and you can reach the international bridge International bridge over the "Arroyo Abrilongo". https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1245144 ... 2?hl=pt-br

Notice how many very rich possibilities the region of the border between Portugal and Spain, can allow entirely interesting routes through different places.

El puente de El Marco '' allows SCS Software's creative team to even make a proposal for better tourist attractiveness for that small bridge. After all, it is the smallest interactional bridge in the world (with daily traffic and road traffic for cyclists, pedestrians) and the smallest in the world!
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#142 Post by dsf.fernando » 18 Apr 2021 16:08

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Is this bridge part of A1 or N113?
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#143 Post by dsf.fernando » 18 Apr 2021 21:03

More images of Leiria, this time from the industrial zone (Cova das Faias in Marrazes, also known by the abbreviated name of Zicofa) and IC2. All pictures here were taken by myself last friday.

The Iveco dealer. Not located inside Zicofa itself, but i think this would be an interesting picture to put because of the shape and Access can't be made by IC2 itself, but by a street aside the road. Is any prefab like this already present in ETS2?
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Map of Zicofa. For some reason, the orientation of the map on ths sign is south-north. IC2 is in red, while N113 is the purple road that is in the upper part of the image (the part inside Zicofa is incorrectly called "Variante"). Another omitted information in this map is that the roundabout on IC2 goes over the road.
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The roundabout of access to Zicofa seen near the Iveco dealer
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The east exit of Zicofa. Speed limit here is 50.
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Entry of Zicofa by the eastern exit. The towers are concrete factories, while the green building is a concrete prefabs factory, and the red building is a factory of industrial equipments.
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This building is actually for sale. Its previous owner was a footwear distributor which entered an insolvency process.
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A trailer from the local pig farming facility. Is this kind of trailer already in the game? That reminds me of the cattle transporter, but without openings.
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Front of the Scania dealer inside Zicofa. Previously, this building was a Renault trucks dealer
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Backside of the Scania dealer
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The red banners indicate the current position of the Renault dealer
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I have no idea about what is being built here. A sign indicated that was something related to minerals
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Backside of a resins and polymers factory a little outside of the map, in the continuation of the green road in the map westwards. A transport company is also present in the other side of the street, but i could not get a good moment to take a picture of it
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This building actually is a storage and distribution center of poultry products. The factory and main production centers are located in Figueira da Foz. Note: this company has its own truck fleet and does most of its logitics by their own.
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Ignore this, the speed limit inside Zicofa is 50km/h, but the recommended speed is 30km/h. This building here looks more like a shop than a factory, and its products would be automatic gates and doors.

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i don't know if this is a rare case, but it's interesting to see this distance indicator sideways
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This is a retailer supermarket, but the most interesting lies aside it: a moulds factory
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The aerial roundabout of access to IC2, as seen by the closest i could while riding a bicycle
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After leaving the Zicofa area, the speed limit on IC2 returns to 80km/h for cars, staying the same until A19 splits again into two routes, with one staying with 80km/h limit and tolls, and the second keeping the IC2 moniker, but with speed limited to 50km/h as it starts to trespass smaller villages as Batalha (which monastery is aside the road) and Porto de Mós, where A19 effectively ends, giving way to IC2 to Lisbon or IC9 until Tomar, but with plans of expanding that road to Ponte de Sor
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#144 Post by dsf.fernando » 06 May 2021 00:26

For those interested, here are the trailer sales numbers in Portugal for 2017 and 2018.
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Schwarzmüller trailers are sold by Reina Perícia in Vila do Conde. I managed to find just three or four pictures of Schwarzmüller trailers in Portugal, all of them being registered in Porto (P-10XXXX).

For the big five (those with over 5% of market share in 2017):

Schmitz Cargobull's main dealer is in Rio Maior, on IC2. They are most common with L-XXXXXX plates, but they can be seen with almost every district plate.
Krone's sole dealer in Portugal (Keytrailer) is located in Porto de Mós, further north in the same road. The most common plates for Krone trailers are L-XXXXXX, SE-XXXXX, LE-XXXX and C-XXXXX. LE-XXX plates appear sporadically in older trailers.
Kässbohrer's only dealer (Tracto-Lena, which also deals heavy machinery) is in the same road, in the southern entry to Leiria. Apparently it's a recent entry to the Portuguese market and all trailers i witnessed or were found on search engines had LE-XXXX plates.
Lecitrailer seems to be the most well represented of them: with representants in Porto, Coimbra, Viseu, Santarém, Lisboa, Évora and Faro. AV-XXXXX and SE-XXXXX plates are also common for them.
Kögel's representant is present in Vila do Conde and Mangualde near Viseu. Its most common plates are GD-XXXX, C-XXXXX and L-1XXXXX.
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Revised trailer plate number limits

#145 Post by dsf.fernando » 30 May 2021 20:27

Additional info about the trailers (warning: contains content from .sii files)

The current license plate spawning ratio:

# L up to 209999
# C,P,AV up to 99999
# BR,E,SE,VI up to 9999
# GD,LE,VC up to ~3000, not enough templates, so we use 2099 as maximum and re-use L tokens (LE does not appear due to an error which def5[]: "LE", which should be added to the file, did not appear
# SA,VR up to 999, not enough templates, use the above


Some of the spawning ratios should be revised:
BG and VR stay the same.

GNR police vehicles should spawn with the GNRX-0000. The last character vary according to the vehicle type:´
  • *B: Armoured vehicle
    *C: Heavy transport vehicle. Trucks of any kind.
    *E: Special functions (snow plowers etc.)
    *F: Fiscal Brigade (apparently no longer used)
    *G: Light Transport Vehicles.
    *J: All-Terrain Vehicles
    *L: Light Passenger vehicles such as cars and vans. The most common plate for GNR vehicles
    *M: Motorcycles
    *P: Buses and heavy passenger vehicles (not appliable to the game)
    *T: Traffic Brigade / Traffic National Unit (apparently no longer used)


The BMW Series 5, Nissan Qashqai, Octavia 2009, Fiat Punto, Renault Clio and Megane should spawn inside Portugal. The Mini should spawn less often.
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#146 Post by Pumizo » 13 Jul 2021 08:27

@dsf.fernando all this trailer license plates info was sent and discussed with the devs in the private research foruns. What you see in-game it's what they decided to do.
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#147 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 23 Aug 2021 10:38

This pig transport trailer. It would be great to be added to the Euro Truck 2 game.
The final is one of the largest livestock farms in Europe.
The raising of pigs, and the production of meat from these animals in slaughterhouses. This not only in the Iberian Peninsula, but also mainly in central Europe, in Germany prominently, and also in Scandinavia, where I remember that Denmark is very strong in this sector.
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#148 Post by krmarci » 24 Sep 2021 16:50

dsf.fernando wrote: 24 Sep 2021 15:19 Will jets fly near Beja? (this city has an Air Force base, the largest in Western Europe, mostly used by the German Air Force and for training of pilots. Jets are already present at the Portuguese map, most precisely from Coimbra to Lisbon, "reproducing" the Monte Real air base which is home for the Portuguese jet fighter aircraft)
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Re: Portugal pre-research tips

#149 Post by sazalar » 16 Dec 2021 14:38

I'm a little late to the party but I've waiting to see how the game would evolve and make a little research.

So, as Leiria is still not in the map but I've heard there are plans to add it, I'd like to bring some information on one of the things that is moving more trucks in the Leiria region and one of Portugal's main exports, the stone industry.

The Leiria stone industry mostly consists of limestone coming from the south of Porto de Mós municipality, north of Santarém municipality and the Fátima region and most of it is exported to China and the UAE.

The road that connects Porto de Mós to Santarém has its fair share of use and might be one of the most used smaller national roads in Leiria and about 3/5 of its traffic is composed of trucks transporting either stone from Fatima to Porto de Mós to be cut, stone in containers to be delivered in the Lisbon port, smaller stones to produce the famous Portuguese cobble stone sidewalks or even heavy machinery to extract said stone. This road is also highly used during the night to avoid police operations in the IC2.
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