Portugal pre-research tips

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#71 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 26 Mar 2020 16:03

SPECIAL TRANSPORT PORTUGAL
1- modern Industrial chimney n the sines area in Portugal.
The largest transport in Portugal, a chimney for "Ar Liquid".
Total length: 56m, width: 5.80m, height: 5.10m. Weight: 220 tons.

Chimney destination company location map:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Air+L ... -8.8173511

2 - Turbine transport to somewhere in the sines area in Portugal.
The turbine has a heavy weight of 300 tons.


3 - 56-meter blades for a 3.6 MW Senvion wind tower.
Location of penacova wind farm, map: https://www.google.com/maps/search/Port ... a=!3m1!1e3

Tegopi em Gaia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1FoVOgbSdo
Mechanical metal industry location map:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/TEGOP ... -8.6184361
Metallic Structures: metallic structure for industrial buildings, generic heavy metallic structures, covers for airports, covers for gymnasiums, covers for rural sheds, structures for railway bridges and road bridges, stadium lighting structures, electrical sub-stations, works of art.
Wind towers: is one of the main Portuguese manufacturers of wind towers for wind farms in Portugal. Site company TEGOPI: http://www.tegopi.pt
The company went bankrupt, in 2019.

Penacova Wind Farm
Penacova,village.

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#72 Post by Pumizo » 30 Mar 2020 09:57

Toll gates are generally narrow and have booms because of the many unconscious truck (and car) drivers that who would pass at 90 km/h (or more) if they don't exist. You would be surprised by the number of fatal accidents in tool booths worldwide.
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#73 Post by krmarci » 31 Mar 2020 21:42

One more post about tolls from the ETS2 teasers thread:
andrenascentes wrote:
26 Mar 2020 13:41
In Portugal there are basically 2 kinds of tools:
The traditionals ones that usually have some lanes for card or money payment and some lanes for ViaVerde (telepass). The ViaVerde lanes are marked with green lights (very good looking at night) and the speed limit is 40km/h in some and 60km/h in others. Look at this picture:
https://www.motorpasion.com/otros/via-v ... r-aprender

The modern one are these on the first picture: https://www.autogids.be/auto-advies/ibe ... peage.html

You must have a ViaVerde device on your car/truck or after 3 days you can go to ViaVerde website and pay it online (or you can pay at the post office!)
The ViaVerde device: https://goinfornet.blogspot.com/2011/12 ... verde.html

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#74 Post by NewCoolMapper » 16 Apr 2020 12:52

As the recent blog post included some pictures in Portugal, and I suspect one of them is from Sines, I'll leave here some info from there (mainly about the road).
To there we have an IC road, that starts being an highway with a 2+2 profile (A26) near Santiago do Cacém. When finished, A26 should cover the current IC from Sines to the village of Cruz de João Mendes, where it'll turn right in order to join the already-built A26 between Beja and Figueira dos Cavaleiros (it's not on street view yet, but it's opening in March and there's a video, in case you want to do it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2G5O7CiISs.

About the IC33 itself, the road that connects the A2 (coming from Lisbon) to Santiago to Cacém, here it goes:

1+1 road with large shoulders (like the rest of the IC's that don't have an highway profile)
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turns into 2+2 with no separation for exits (looks a lot like your balt roads and its prefabs)
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has (like the other national roads/IC's) these arrows when the road is about to have a single line in the middle, where overtaking not be allowed
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has this distance signs which places you can change according to which cities you're making, in the 1:19 scale it would make sense maybe Lisboa and Setúbal or Lisboa and Évora. The font on this one is incorrect, a version of this sign following the portuguese guidelines can be found below. You can also find the 4 fonts used in Portuguese roads and that I also used in this image (the light ones are for white text and the bolder ones are for black text), here - https://www.infraestruturasdeportugal.p ... inalizacao (where it says Fontes JAE (ficheiro ZIP, 4.976KB).
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#75 Post by NewCoolMapper » 17 Apr 2020 14:18

Now a comment about for me, one of the most interesting highways in the whole Portugal - the A23. It's known as the Beira Interior highway, starting in the district of Santarém near the city of Torres Novas and ends near Guarda, in the Beira Alta, making up a total of 217 kms and being the 4th biggest highway of the country.

This is the start of the highway, where it is drier than the A1 but greener than the Alentejo roads (A2 and A6).
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(also, don't forget those distance signs ;) )

The highway then turns greener near Praia do Ribatejo and Entroncamento, with a vegetation consisting of essentially pine trees;
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It then enters deep into the Beira Baixa with the approach to the city of Abrantes, where several electronic tolls can be seen (you can use the http://www.estradas.pt/calculador-porta ... eSupport=1 to get the prices right - trucks are Classe 4);
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Between Abrantes and the IP2 the landscape consists of dry mountains - here the road has a 2+3 profile;
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Then we have the IP2 exit, which is one of the two exits I think SCS should include of the A23, because the IP2 connects the A23 (from Guarda and Castelo Branco) to the Alentejo (Estremoz/Évora);
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From the IP2 to Castelo Branco it consists of some mountains again, until Sarnadas de Ródão where it gets drier and more plain. I think making Castelo Branco would be interesting - and because it's on the right side of the highway - it wouldn't overlap any other city and it is doable on the current scale. It has a huge industrial area, bigger than the ones from cities like Coimbra and Guarda;
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The further we go North from Castelo Branco, the closer we get to Serra da Gardunha - which has some amazing views and reminds me of some parts of the Italy DLC.
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Going even more to the North, we can see the mountains of Serra da Estrela and the city of Covilhã:
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The hilly dry landscapes continue near Benespera and Belmonte:
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Then we finally get to Guarda and to the A23/A25 interchange - go right, get into Spain via Vilar Formoso; go left, go to Porto, Aveiro and Viseu.
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#76 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 28 Apr 2020 01:24

Suggestion:
Some aerial shots of economic places in Portugal Perhaps it may appear on the Iberia DLC map perspectives of moving an aerial camera that allows making this type of screen
capture through video:


City: Lisbon.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/uE6TCoXtZ7Y[/youtube]

City: Port
[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS_EPjP_fmY/youtube]

the Portuguese bridges in the city of Porto and in the city of Lisbon can be very highlighted with this type of technique for the game aerial perspectives centered on the bridge and in the rivers.

city of Fátima
[youtube]https://youtu.be/YEfGKG22Bdo[/youtube]
If the city of Fátima is on the map of Portugal what would be very good would be Spectacular if it had this aerial perspective of the Sanctuary complex.

Cape of Roca -Cabo da Roca (pt)
Cabo da Roca is one of the most iconic places in Portugal because it is a very beautiful natural symbol and it is also a very important historical symbol for Portuguese history. truck and trailer could have been privileged and also aerial shots of camera movement where it was possible to record this beautiful seascape until reaching the lighthouse and the vehicle.

Star Mountains - Serra da Estrela (pt)
Is one of the highest places in Portugal at altitude and is also one of the economic places in the country with strong symbolism for the Portuguese people and is a major tourist attraction.
Also famous for the production of cheese and milk.
Loads of scientific equipment could be delivered to the summit of Serra da Estrela for game purposes at ETS2.


In this video you have a little information about what it is like to go up and down the highway that gives access to the top of Serra da Estrela and the astronomical observation tower.

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#77 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 29 Apr 2020 14:24

Rural curiosities of Portugal:

Sometimes on Portuguese agricultural farms that have plantations Olives they transport trees using low reels attached to tractors This can be seen in rural areas maybe SCS
Software can do some animations in rural areas with olive plantations.

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-- Amphorae, Alentejo, Portugal ---
Wineries on the Iberian peninsula still retain much of the Roman tradition of storing and producing high quality wines using large amphoras and are transported by truck trailers.
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Trailer Truck loaded with wine equipment, probably somewhere in the Iberian Peninsula, most likely for Portuguese wineries in Alentejo.
  Please note that the amphoras located at the rear and end of the trailer truck are of Italian production (due to their design and produced in the Tuscan region).

The largest amphorae for Alentejo "wine size" are about 7 feet high, and can support more than 525 gallons.

Reference: https://www.winemag.com/2019/03/21/port ... rae-wines/

They are also fragile and need special care, so we can classify amphorae as fragile cargo in ETS2.

Brief explanation about the use amphorae, an ancient Roman technique for the production of unique traditional wines, still keeping this Portuguese and European tradition alive in the Alentejo region.
  While in the Douro region, the maturation of wine production takes place in the most traditional way with barrels.

In Portugal "amphora wine" is known as ''carved wine" ( pt: "Vinho de Talha"). Used exclusively in the alentejo region.
So this is a load that may be being studied and developed by SCS Software for; DLC Iberia, map of Portugal, region of the Alentejo, wineries.


-- Amphorae -- Factory & Commerce.
Large amphorae for the fermentation of wines are importation made in Italy, the Republic of Sakartvelos ( ex-Georgia) and even in Oregon (U.S.A).
Reference: https://www.winemag.com/2019/03/21/port ... rae-wines/

Italy: City - Impruneta.
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Factory: ARTENOVA
Localization: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Impru ... 11.2509854
Site: http://jars.terracotta-artenova.com/terracotta-wine/

Italy: City -Città della Pieve.

Factory: Sirio Anfore - Cotto Pievese S.r.l.s.
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OBS: pallet suitable for amphoras.

Localization:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cotto ... d11.965416
Link products: https://www.sirioanfore.com/GB/amphorae/amphorae

Exemples product:
850 liters Sirio's amphora
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tipper amphora
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Portugal. Amphorae. Factory & Commerce.

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Localization factory: Vila de Frades,County (city): Vidigueira.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vila+ ... -7.8471402
Contact - "Telheiro Artesanal" factory: https://www.facebook.com/Telheiro-Artes ... 392309378/
The biggest obstacle to increasing the production of "Talha wine" is supply. Most producers use carvings over 100 years old, due to their large size and smooth structure, shipping is problematic from the outside, unfortunately, art is practically lost in this Portuguese region.

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However, the hope lies in the local artisan, Antonio Rocha, owner of "Telheiro Artesanal," and his local company, to meet the demand.


Brazil imported more than 3.5 million liters in 2017. it represents 17.9% of the global Alentejo Wines market in Brazil. Second among Alentejo wine importers is Angola. Thirdly, the United States. It follows by order of imports: Switzerland, China as the largest importers of the product together account for 59% of exports and together with other countries outside the European Union, it means that 70% of all the volume of wines produced is sold outside the EU. This includes "vinho de Talha".
Reference: https://revistaadega.uol.com.br/artigo/ ... 11212.html
In 2016, it was found that 20% of Alentejo wine exports were "vinho de Talha", and the main importers of this specific type of wine were in order: United States, Brazil, Angola, Switzerland.
Reference: http://qvinhos.blogspot.com/2016/05/vin ... na-de.html

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#78 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 01 May 2020 15:29

N 18 The Incredible Bridge and Landscape. Portas de Ródão & Vila Velha de Ródão (Gates of Ródão & Villa old of Ródão. english)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6469507 ... 312!8i6656

look at this bridge on the N18 highway in Portugal.
  the view to both sides of the bridge is incredible, and this mountain in front, the road forks (that is, it divides) to the left and right, I think this bridge is very beautiful, it would look good. Portugal is beautiful, there are incredible bridges, admirable landscapes, and a thriving economy.
More videos:
1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_wJHtfqzYU
2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chQPUyG1j_M&t=231s

Castelo de Rodão (Castel of Rodão. english)
  So my research tip is if the boys and girls at SCS Software are working on the maps if there is the N18 highway.
  Please do not miss this bridge and the landscape is very beautiful.

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#79 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 04 May 2020 22:18

We will try to dedicate this part to put Portuguese and Fronteira routes in the video format. Maybe you can help in the production of maps.


Portugal & Spain: A24 + A-75 Chaves - Verín

N 2 Chaves to Vila Real

N135 + N270 + A22 Faro to Lagos - Region: Algarve
Map route:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Faro,+P ... 230468!3e0

This ROUTE is the ideal that could exist for the Algarve region in Portugal.
  Because it simply allows the two cities of greatest economic importance cities: Faro, Portimão, to be on the map of Portugal, DLC Iberia.
  The route can also be included to the historic city of Sagres.

Sagres: it has a beautiful Fortaleza that has great historical importance for Portugal, because it was here that the Portuguese developed the technologies, and geographic knowledge, necessary to reach the Americas, everything is clearly kept confidential in relation to its direct competitor: the kingdom of Spain that developed the same technologies, and geographic knowledge in the city of Cadiz.
 There was a great geopolitical dispute for the conquest of the Americas and the search for a viable route to trade with the great Economic power since antiquity: the kingdoms of India, which we now know because they are the states of the Republic of India.

 Also important in this context is the Cape of the São Vicente Lighthouse where several studies and information gathering were carried out to establish the nautical and climatological knowledge necessary for oceanic navigations.
 So I recommend that SCS Software can create the route: Faro, Portimão, Sagres.

Route map Concept:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Faro,+P ... 41!1m5!1m1

The map above on the link expresses only the route.
  The actual travel time is +-2 hours. The great advantage of this route is that it allows the 2 most economically important cities in the Algarve to be built, and also the small town of Sagres with its historical and scenic details, the south of Portugal, would be very well balanced in possessed parts of the road in expressway system, and another part with simpler highways, and this route is an important axis in the Algarve region. I believe that players will enjoy taking this route very much. The video can be a great help in building the map. And that map and video can be useful.

Attractions:
I recommend that it be done:
Beliche Beach Viewpoint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-QsfT238I
Lighthouse and Cape of São Vicente. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyNBmVcISU 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-QsfT238I
Fortaleza de Sagres. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09F3Za2qIgQ 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm8QwoMm0jM
Fortaleza do Beliche, 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuf-OXEuxy0
Ponta do Atalaia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZbSKTUdTPI
Lighthouse of Baleeira. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkdW-hWrRg


Logistics infrastructure:
1 fuel station.
2 Supermarkets.
1 restaurant (Mirante da Praia da Baleeira)
1 Port. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWAFyEd6d0 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXQF92bkPvU&t=62s
1 Market Fish (Port) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b59nUw3aM8&t=83s

Loads to Sagres:
Recommend the following loads can be offered to the small town of Sagres.

Food products > Supermarkets.
  Fishing equipment > fishing store.
  Nautical sports equipment > fishing shop.
  fuels > gas station.
  yachts, boats, fishing boats > Marina & port.


So with these three cities in the south of Portugal it would be more than perfectly represented.

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#80 Post by plinio.lisboa.br » 05 May 2020 05:00

Good morning SCS Software team so far, I have found only two YouTubers that have a playlist of Portuguese roads and, I am providing the links Perhaps it is of interest to the map team, and also to our gamers friends. who want to know a little bit of Portugal through the videos.

Portugal. Motorway A1, E1 from Lisboa (Av. da República) - to Motorway A23 in Torres Novas.
Route map: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lisboa, ... 478072!3e0


Portugal. A1. Motorway A 23 Torres Novas to Coimbra motorway IP3.
Portugal. A1. Motorway A1, E1 from Coimbra motorway IP3 - Porto motorway IP3 - to Vila Nova de Gaia.

The youtuber Roads of Europe (verreme) videos of European roads, has a playlist about Portuguese roads, in which he traveled.
I make this playlist available and research it with good material on Portuguese roads through this link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... j6ZToJnHGe

The youtuber DALNOBOIVIDEO videos of European roads, has a playlist about Portuguese roads, in which he traveled.
I make this playlist available and research it with good material on Portuguese roads through this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-WEqdH ... 54wIAUAj6R

Aanother youtuber, Josan Portugal Autoestradas, that has very interesting material and can be configured for HD quality. What could be very attractive for the SCS Software map team to use these videos in process of creating Portuguese roads for the DLC Iberia. Good material on Portuguese roads through this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVagh9c ... UT&index=1

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