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Re: Discussione Iberia

#3451 Post by Mr993 » 22 Feb 2021 07:17

It would be nice to have seasons like Forza Horizon 4...

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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3452 Post by plykkegaard » 22 Feb 2021 07:54

Ferries and Iberia

Check this revealing bug report
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#3453 Post by krmarci » 22 Feb 2021 08:11

@plykkegaard There's nothing in there that would be related to Iberia - what do you mean?

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#3454 Post by plykkegaard » 22 Feb 2021 08:25

Ohh sorry I made a mistake
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#3455 Post by IvanKuz » 22 Feb 2021 19:42

Shiva wrote:
20 Feb 2021 22:06
Was that for Washington or Colorado?
I don't know about Washington or other states, but they showed the map of Colorado on the stream. However, for Road to the Black Sea they did the same thing as for Iberia: loading pre-prepared game saves without showing the map.
Esproquet wrote:
21 Feb 2021 01:14
European motorways of the sea:
Thanks for the links. However, all this info is too vague and just describes the general concept. What I'm curious about is specific ports and ferry routes which can/may be added to the game. Something more like this:
HRTrucking wrote:
21 Feb 2021 10:35
Here's a lot of ferry freight ports.
https://www.aferryfreight.co.uk/freight ... gIt7PD_BwE
This is great, thanks a lot! :)
HRTrucking wrote:
21 Feb 2021 10:35
I don't know if SCS will use the ferries to connect it without DLC France. They've been using the garage buy system so far in ETS2 and ATS.
Of course they will add ferries, why would you think they wouldn't? In the past they added Travemünde to the base map specifically for the Baltic DLC, for example. And we have seen images of ferry ports in the north of Spain in the blogs, so we can be pretty sure there will be ferry connections to the base map.
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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3456 Post by Esproquet » 22 Feb 2021 22:40

A sea motorway should meet these conditions:
  • To have the consideration of Short Sea Shipping (SSS) with Roll on-Roll off haulage method (Ro-Ro, that is, a truck drives into the ferry at the departure port and drives out the ferry at the arrival port, it's called Ro-Pax if it allows regular passengers as well in).
  • At least 3 trips per week.
  • Be used to transport a significant amount of cargo.
  • To reduce traffic by preventing bottlenecks in high-density roads (The Pyrinees, the Alps, the Eurotunnel...), although some of these routes link places not connected by land and hence they don't produce this effect, like Spain-Morocco lines, or continental Europe-Ireland lines.
That link from aferryfreight contains some of them, but not all of them. I didn't put any link because it's not easy finding that information and googling it doesn't give immediate results. As for Spain, I have been looking for a while and found out some routes that are missing in aferryfreight site because it's operated by some rival company, Valencia for instance is the biggest Ro-Ro port in Spain. Some Spanish routes connecting to Europe (not Africa or the Spanish isles):
  • Algeciras _ Vigo-Nantes - St. Nazaire (Suardiaz group)
  • Santander - Portsmouth (Brittany ferries)
  • Bilbao - Portsmouth (Brittany ferries)
  • Barcelona - Porto Torres - Civitavecchia (Grimaldi lines)
  • Valencia _ Barcelona - Livorno - Savona (Grimaldi lines)
  • Valencia - Cagliari - Salerno (Grimaldi lines)
This is the Ro-Ro chart for Spain (in tons)

There are other lines that do not meet the conditions above indicated, like Cartagena - Toulon (pilot line with 1 ferry per week at the moment), other lines that were lost (Gijón - St. Nazaire - Nantes was discontinued some years ago, Balearia is trying to reopen it) and even lines that haven't got greenlit just yet (a line from Almería to Sete is being fought for several years now but the neighbour Murcian huerta rivals got the upper hand). Other important ports are Málaga, Motril (Granada), Huelva, Cádiz, Castellón, Alicante & Tarragona, they all are competing to get sensible & profitable connections. As I said, I'm not taking into account North African routes or routes to the islands

https://cargo.grimaldi-lines.com/es/hor ... eas-espana
https://www.suardiaz.com/services/ro-ro ... s/?lang=en
https://www.puertosantander.es/cas/traf ... lares.aspx
https://www.brittany-ferries.es/rutas/f ... portsmouth
https://www.froet.es/nuevo-horario-ferr ... s-18-00-h/
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IBERIA screenshots interactive map: https://maphub.net/Esproquet/ets2-iberia

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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3457 Post by plykkegaard » 22 Feb 2021 22:52

I have seen complete vehicles go from Esbjerg to UK on regular DFDS Ro-Ro ships
The trucks are the last to reverse in and the first to leave
The ships have some passenger cabins for the drivers
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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3458 Post by HRTrucking » 23 Feb 2021 21:12

@Esproquet strange that mainland Europe to Ireland doesn't count. As it relieves the Eurotunnel. All other routes to Ireland go through the UK and a get there one could take the Eurotunnel.

Cobelfret in Rotterdam has a Ro Ro ferry to Leixoes Portugal. Leaves Monday and arrives Friday :shock: . I thought Zeebrugge Belgium to Santander took long, I know a special haulage drivers who took that ferry. Same driver was also a couple of times on the Zeebrugge to Esbjerg in Denmark ferry, with special haulage this happens quite a lot.

Rotterdam had 24,25 million tonnes in 2019 with just Ro Ro :shock:

With 436,8 million tonnes of freight Rotterdam is still the largest port of Europe. Used to be the biggest in the world.

I can't wait to see more from Iberia, hope they do more driving in Portugal next time. Only been there once with the truck. And don't know a lot about the scenery :oops: .

@plykkegaard the accompanied trailers usually go in last. Or get all parked behind each other with the last one to go in close to the door. It's so that we don't have to wait to long to get of the ship when it arrives. It takes quite a while to unload the whole ship.
Sometimes we even get parked on the steep ramps that go up the ship to other levels.

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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3459 Post by Mooner_37 » 23 Feb 2021 21:17

I'm curious about what the next blog will be
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Re: Iberia Discussion

#3460 Post by Marcello Julio » 23 Feb 2021 21:33

Maybe the blog post about the Viewpoints on Iberia.

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