Road to the Black Sea Discussion
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Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
The scenery, the visuals and the general feeling is very accurate. It really does feel like Romania, apart from some minor inaccuracies and overviews here and there.
But the roads and cities they decided to include or ommit is questionable at least. Having a town as secluded and unimportant like Resita ingame while omitting much bigger and especially truckingwise much more important logistical hubs like Oradea is a bit upsetting. Also not having basicaly anything north of Cluj makes the country seem incomplete as 1/4 of the country is missing.
But BY FAR the biggest shock not only for me but I think for basicaly everyone familiar with Romania is the missing Olt's valley (The A1 + DN7 section between Sebes and Pitesti). That is technicaly the countries most important road connection to Europe, it's sorta the backbone of Romania. Every, single, truck that goes to Romania passes through it! And they decided not to build it, they built the A1 from the Hungarian border til Sebes and then just left it like that. Instead they built the Bran pass which is basicaly a tourist road and almost no truck uses it ever in RL. Just to be able to have ingame that stereotypical dumb "Dracula fortress"... It's pretty much like not having in ATS the I-5 in CA so if you fancy driving from LA up to SF you're only choice is through Yosemite national park, Nevada and then back in CA again... It's dumb and ignorant. I heard from many people and I agree that lately SCS puts way too much effort into the touristy aspects of the game and steers the game away from Euro/American TRUCK Simulator towards a "hey let's go sightseeing in national parks and castles with trucks" Simulator.
I'm fine with having some spectacular and touristy roads that are not really for trucks, and viewpoints to discover, and castles and islands and whatnot, but NOT at the expense of the main trunk roads and hubs and other TRUCKINGWISE important aspects.
But the roads and cities they decided to include or ommit is questionable at least. Having a town as secluded and unimportant like Resita ingame while omitting much bigger and especially truckingwise much more important logistical hubs like Oradea is a bit upsetting. Also not having basicaly anything north of Cluj makes the country seem incomplete as 1/4 of the country is missing.
But BY FAR the biggest shock not only for me but I think for basicaly everyone familiar with Romania is the missing Olt's valley (The A1 + DN7 section between Sebes and Pitesti). That is technicaly the countries most important road connection to Europe, it's sorta the backbone of Romania. Every, single, truck that goes to Romania passes through it! And they decided not to build it, they built the A1 from the Hungarian border til Sebes and then just left it like that. Instead they built the Bran pass which is basicaly a tourist road and almost no truck uses it ever in RL. Just to be able to have ingame that stereotypical dumb "Dracula fortress"... It's pretty much like not having in ATS the I-5 in CA so if you fancy driving from LA up to SF you're only choice is through Yosemite national park, Nevada and then back in CA again... It's dumb and ignorant. I heard from many people and I agree that lately SCS puts way too much effort into the touristy aspects of the game and steers the game away from Euro/American TRUCK Simulator towards a "hey let's go sightseeing in national parks and castles with trucks" Simulator.
I'm fine with having some spectacular and touristy roads that are not really for trucks, and viewpoints to discover, and castles and islands and whatnot, but NOT at the expense of the main trunk roads and hubs and other TRUCKINGWISE important aspects.
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Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
... and they could still have placed Bran and the castle making just a small stretch of road south of Brașov and sticking a logging company to give a reason to go there. Also Prahova Valley, the bane of every Romanian driver but an important route.
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I cannot (yet) see any trend in this direction if you ask me. FOR NOW it looks to me like RttBS is more of an exception. Apart from this one, all maps releasedArvidsson-Källqvist wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020 20:55I heard from many people and I agree that lately SCS puts way too much effort into the touristy aspects of the game and steers the game away from Euro/American TRUCK Simulator towards a "hey let's go sightseeing in national parks and castles with trucks" Simulator.
so far for both ETS2 and ATS included the most important roads and cities. We will see how it looks like with Iberia but don't think that the same mistakes are made there (am simply an optimistic guy).
Yep and that's exactly what they did with Idaho and Colorado. The introduction of viewpoints, roads through national parks and such and all this withoutI'm fine with having some spectacular and touristy roads that are not really for trucks, and viewpoints to discover, and castles and islands and whatnot, but NOT at the expense of the main trunk roads and hubs and other TRUCKINGWISE important aspects.
neglecting the as you say "truckingwise important aspects". Such questionable decisions as they were made in the case of RttBS are and hopefully remain the exception.
Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
Yeah forgot that you are right that this is in fact somehow similar even if not quite comparable in significance with the situation in RttBS (absence of Olt valley
for example). But yeah it's true what you said, they gave us US-34 instead of CO-14. Maybe it will come later IF there is enough space for it, maybe not... but at the moment it's definitely not there. Agree with you here.
for example). But yeah it's true what you said, they gave us US-34 instead of CO-14. Maybe it will come later IF there is enough space for it, maybe not... but at the moment it's definitely not there. Agree with you here.
Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
Olt Valley, is that the E81 from Sebeș, via Sibiu, Rîmnicu Vîlcea to Pitești?
If yes, yeah, that road would be nice to get someday.
CO-14? between US-40 and Fort Collins?
Sadly not sure about that. It is IRL only a mile/1,6km missing ingame where CO-14 and US-287 split from each other. Wyoming border is very close to that area.
If yes, yeah, that road would be nice to get someday.
CO-14? between US-40 and Fort Collins?
Sadly not sure about that. It is IRL only a mile/1,6km missing ingame where CO-14 and US-287 split from each other. Wyoming border is very close to that area.
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Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
Given the scale of the game I prefer to have unique roads and specifics for each country rather than 3-lane highways which are the same around the globe. Sure, highways are more important for logistics, but driving them is boring.
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The missing part of E81, would be a mix of roads.
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Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
But then a trucking simulation is not for you.
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Re: Road to the Black Sea Discussion
3 lane highways don't even exist here


The stretch of road I was talking about is like 35% 2*2 highway in hilly terrains with viaducts and a tunnel and the rest is a very spectacular national road inside a steep valley between huge mountains and a river next to it. Personally I think it's far more scenic than even the alternative Bran pass they built instead. It really seems like they made this decision just to be able to have a road next to the oh so famous "Dracula Castle" (That by itself is the most annoying steretypical symbol of Romania) But even then they could have done it the way Pigbrother said above.
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