Next ATS truck speculation

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Re: Next ATS truck speculation

#5231 Post by Freeze338 » 17 Jan 2022 19:56

Knightrider wrote: 17 Jan 2022 19:29 It does not make much sense to still have the Older generation Cascadia as an option in the poll, its highly unlikely we'll get the truck at this point. Am I missing something? ( was there anything that hinted otherwise?)
International 9900I confirmed even it's out of production. Also SCS released MAN TGX Efficient Line 3 which is out of production as well. That means out of production means nothing anymore. So old Cascadia, 5700, 4900 and many more, you name it. Everything is possible as soon as SCS wants to get.
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#5232 Post by Knightrider » 17 Jan 2022 19:59

Freeze I agree but its not much a matter of being out of production per-se, its because its one of the oldest models teased for ATS (back in 2016).
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#5233 Post by xXCARL1992Xx » 17 Jan 2022 19:59

the EL3 was still in production when SCS gained the license, stop spreading misinformation, also the license for the 9900i also would have already been obtained not long after it was out of production but it only makes it in now
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Re: Next ATS truck speculation

#5234 Post by flight50 » 17 Jan 2022 20:25

Knightrider wrote: 17 Jan 2022 19:29 It does not make much sense to still have the Older generation Cascadia as an option in the poll,
I said that when we where coming up with a new poll. Out of production trucks do not belong in this thread. It was added anyways. But I made an out of production poll wishlist and the old Cascadia is fine there. viewtopic.php?p=1635326#p1635326
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Re: Next ATS truck speculation

#5235 Post by Wolfi » 17 Jan 2022 20:29

The poll is meaningless anyway. It's people's wishes rather than actual logicak truck possibilities.
In all honesty I think this thread would go as good, or even better without the silly poll. But to each their own, I guess...
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#5236 Post by Knightrider » 17 Jan 2022 20:34

@flight50
nice, just voted there.
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#5237 Post by Seerman » 17 Jan 2022 22:01

Knightrider wrote: 17 Jan 2022 19:29 It does not make much sense to still have the Older generation Cascadia as an option in the poll, its highly unlikely we'll get the truck at this point. Am I missing something? ( was there anything that hinted otherwise?)
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#5238 Post by xXCARL1992Xx » 17 Jan 2022 22:06

that wasnt any hinting at all, SCS explained what models they have but they never said all of them will make it because it is out of their hand, the Lonestar shown is also not the one we got

and this is the exact reason why SCS doesnt show anything anymore until they are 100% sure it will happen, people taking everything out of context
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#5239 Post by AntonioMart » 18 Jan 2022 01:27

I think that it was Daimler's decision to present in game the new Cascadia first of all. I think that it will be added, because it was not made in vain.

Also, I think the 5700XE will also be added, but first of all, WS wanted to present a completely new 49X model in game.
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#5240 Post by TheAmir259 » 18 Jan 2022 02:51

Freeze338 wrote: 17 Jan 2022 03:56 How are you doing the math and saying we can't get all states until 2040?
harishw8r wrote: 17 Jan 2022 06:37 The time estimation arguments are always on the assumption that the team’s size would never grow. Pretty sure that won’t be the case, especially with the Vehicles team. Last year alone we got 5 truck related upgrades, so there should be at least four small groups. So two trucks per game per year is a reasonable estimation. This number will only go up in the future. Final approval might effectively delay the release but the finished models will be released at some point. So one year we might get one truck, next year three.
You clearly didn't read what i said properly, thanks haris for explaining that. While i did say that on a whim, i am still right, with only 10 states done (out of the lower 48), going at a rate of 2 per year is only gonna get us all of them by 2040, how are you taking that seriously yet still getting it wrong, when i didn't take it seriously but still got it right? But once again, this is a truck thread so lets move away from that.
Freeze338 wrote: 17 Jan 2022 19:56 International 9900I confirmed even it's out of production. Also SCS released MAN TGX Efficient Line 3 which is out of production as well. That means out of production means nothing anymore. So old Cascadia, 5700, 4900 and many more, you name it. Everything is possible as soon as SCS wants to get.
xXCARL1992Xx wrote: 17 Jan 2022 19:59 the EL3 was still in production when SCS gained the license, stop spreading misinformation, also the license for the 9900i also would have already been obtained not long after it was out of production but it only makes it in now
Once again Mr. Freeze, stop being emotional, and start being logical. Carl has explained it as has been done before, once again that these cannot disprove the "SCS doesn't do out-of-production trucks anymore" myth, for as long as the licensing has been obtained beforehand, it becomes disqualified. Look, i share your sentiments previously at how WS is retracting the 5700XE for the non-unique-looking 57X, and even as of right now, am still hoping that 5700XE will make it but this, is just you fantasizing without clear proof. Our and the most logical reasons to retract the myth only comes if they decide to introduce something like the Mack Superliner for example, of which we know models like these have long been discontinued (in America). I don't think i need to flat out give the conditions to successfully disprove the myth now do I?

Well my stance as of now? We don't really lose much given that especially for WS, it has been mentioned that there has been a truck in the works, so we can still pin our hopes that the 5700XE could possibly make it in like how the 9900i is about to right now. But what's making that chance slimmer is if the licensing contract was adjusted, presumably during the 49X deal, but we still do not know, nor do we know the contents within them. Similar case to the Cascadia, but while there is a chance for that old cascadia, i'm judging that chance to be only around 5% at most, aka very slim, and just not pin any hopes on that anymore.
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