Russia pre-research tips (European part)
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And yes, as i told before need to change texture for M62 locomotive, which is present in AI, most of them are now repainted in new branded colors of Russian Railways, and there are not so many green ones left.:
And need add russian railroad cars TVZ or Ammendorf:
And need add russian railroad cars TVZ or Ammendorf:
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...But perhaps it's not too late to add some tips about AI traffic for Heart of Russia? I assume it's being done independently from game world mapping.
III. Moscow (and surrounding areas) research tips (cont.)
AI traffic
- Public transport - some context to AntonioMart's earlier posts:
- Most buses, trams, electric buses and "marshrutkas" operated by the city of Moscow have the official blue livery with a white pattern. Here is an extensive official brand book. However, there are still a lot of buses with the older green and white livery too.
- Trolleybuses are all but removed from Moscow at this point.
- The white Liaz buses with a yellow line are operated by the Moscow Oblast (although they often drive into Moscow itself to deliver passengers to metro stations). They also still have the plain white or yellow "marshrutkas".
- Yandex Go (formerly Yandex Taxi - basically the local Uber) cars have probably become almost as iconic and commonplace in Moscow as the famous yellow taxis in New York. Of course, there are still generic private taxis, as well as those operated by other taxi networks like Gett or Uber, but Yandex ones are a lot more common. They are usually white, black or yellow. Here is a booklet about how they should look, with various examples for common vehicle models.
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- Carsharing is becoming widespread. There are several carsharing companies in Moscow, but all their cars must have the same orange livery as part of their design. Cars with dark grey base color are the most common ones.
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There are also cargo carsharing vans now, mostly operated by Yandex. Here is an article describing some of the vehicles used.
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- Mosvodokanal service trucks are a surprisingly common sight in Moscow - I'd say more so than fire trucks or even police cars.
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What about LiAZ-5292 yes, except for a white-gray livery with a yellow stripe and blue, it also have green-white livery:
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Okay, I think this needs to be clarified:AntonioMart wrote: ↑21 Jan 2022 00:25What about LiAZ-5292 yes, except for a white-gray livery with a yellow stripe and blue, it also have green-white livery
- The green and white livery appears to be the "default" livery for LiAZ buses (not just 5292). LiAZ buses with this livery can be seen in various regions.
- The blue livery with a white pattern is used by the city of Moscow on all types and models of buses (not just LiAZes). However, some LiAZ buses in Moscow still retain their "default" green and white livery.
- The white livery with a yellow stripe is used by Mostransavto, the company that runs public transport in the Moscow Oblast, on their various models of buses. But, just like Moscow, they still have some LiAZ buses with the "default" green and white livery.
- Other regions may have their own local liveries for their buses. For example, buses in Chelyabinsk are painted green, buses in Nizhny Novgrod are orange.
Obviously, ETS2 is a truck simulator first and foremost, so it's unreasonable to expect there to be many different bus models made for the game to represent every region. But after RTTBS featured several tram models and the Istanbul bus, it's going to look very bizarre if big cities like Moscow and Ninny Novgorod don't get some realistic Russian city buses. If we can only get one bus model with HoR, it should be a lookalike of LiAZ-5292. It's relatively modern and widespread, and there are over 3000 models of it or its variations operating in Moscow, over 1500 in Moscow Oblast, over 500 in Nizhny Novgorod Oblast, and plenty more in other regions.
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Also, the former Moscow green white buses are transferred to other cities, for example Ryazan:
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Green and white is the former Moscow livery, and not default for LiAZ, in the 2000x there were plenty of Ikarus busses in the same livery. The reason why Green and Whites can be seen other regions is because they are sold second hand from Moscow to regions. Many regions don't have the budget to buy brand new high-capacity busses.
And while this research is useful for SCS, i have my doubts that SCS will reflect all these subtleties.
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Yes, unfortunately buses are practically not represented in the cities. Except Metrobus in Istanbul. Despite the fact that in many cities there are bus stops.
Although public transport, except for trams, would be a great addition to the cities because it is an integral part of it..
Although public transport, except for trams, would be a great addition to the cities because it is an integral part of it..
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Also in Moscow, small LiAZ-4292 buses are used.
https://www.google.ru/maps/@55.7370519, ... 6656?hl=ru
Also it used in Moscow region in gray white livery:
It is quite possible to add these buses to the AI which will run through the territory of Moscow and the Moscow region.
Also same buses in blue color used in Tver, but in a two-door version, but this is a minor detail:
https://www.google.ru/maps/@55.7370519, ... 6656?hl=ru
Also it used in Moscow region in gray white livery:
It is quite possible to add these buses to the AI which will run through the territory of Moscow and the Moscow region.
Also same buses in blue color used in Tver, but in a two-door version, but this is a minor detail:
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I'll copy this from my suggestions in the AI traffic models research thread. Below are 5 common Russian cars that may be good ideas for future AI variety. I tried to differentiate the models from ones added in 1.33/Beyond the Baltic Sea while also trying to balance out "classic" and "modern" styles.
GAZ 3110 Volga Sedan [ external image ]
Lada Niva Travel [ external image ]
Lada Vesta Sedan [ external image ]
VAZ 2109 5DR Hatchback [ external image ]
VAZ 2110 Sedan [ external image ]
GAZ 3110 Volga Sedan [ external image ]
Lada Niva Travel [ external image ]
Lada Vesta Sedan [ external image ]
VAZ 2109 5DR Hatchback [ external image ]
VAZ 2110 Sedan [ external image ]
Re: Russia pre-research tips (European part)
AlexTradeaux36 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022 09:35 If we talk about research even more globally, then at present there is a completely different stele at this place . Panorama shots are outdated.
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