Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32 [FIXED]

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Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32 [FIXED]

#1 Post by ExaminerIan » 24 Mar 2023 20:27

This evening's update to 1.47.0.32 has more problems than the 0.28 beta with EBS and ACC.

Active cruise wants to stop the truck at the set distance whilst in a traffic queue
EBS generall behaves, but still seems to operate when set to 'disabled' - I'm not sure if that is actually the ACC kicking in, though, because the hazard lights do not activate.

Assuming it's actually the ACC, in convoy tonight the line of convoy drivers' trucks looked hilarious at one point - each with around 40m gap between the truck in front, each truck brought to a stop automatically, without the drivers using any controls.

After this sort of thing has happened, the trucks are then clearly labouring to set off whilst fighting their brakes trying to hold them still.

1.47.0.32
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Occurs often enough for me to say it's repeatable, but I can't actuially work out the pattern of events that causes each EBS/ACC auto-braking incident.

Game.log attached (hopefully - the last time I tried attaching anything I got a HTML Error and it didn't actually add the attachment).

There were mods in this run as it was a convoy with friends - I'll rerun tomorrow with a clean profile to make sure and append a new game.log to this thread.
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#2 Post by degreefsteve » 24 Mar 2023 20:35

Hi.


Good evening from belgium here.

This thing happens to me too if i disable ebs acc stops the truck at configured distance so it is for shure repeatable.

have a great evening.

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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#3 Post by pandaforlife » 24 Mar 2023 20:47

Just turn off acc until they fix emergency brake etc
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#4 Post by ExaminerIan » 24 Mar 2023 20:48

Hi!

Thanks for confirming that - I tried all three versions of the EBS, so that's why I reckoned it most likely just ACC.

I had not seen the choice of three options (off, traffic, full) for EBS before - the previous beta version was just a checkbox for on/off, so there's a possibility it has an uninintended effect on the ACC!

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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#5 Post by Bulldozer 1973 » 24 Mar 2023 20:49

The same problem exists with SpezialTransporte.
When the ACC is active here, you can't get off the spot because the escort vehicle is too close.

Furthermore, the ACC in Europe is set to a minimum distance of 50 meters.

But this is not possible in ETS2.
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#6 Post by ExaminerIan » 24 Mar 2023 20:51

pandaforlife wrote: 24 Mar 2023 20:47 Just turn off acc until they fix emergency brake etc
Yeah, that's the way around it for now.

It's a shame, because ACC had improved massively for the pre 1.47.0.32 betas, compared to the 'experimental' version in 1.45/1.46 - it's gone from okay to great to AARGH! in a week ;)
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#7 Post by ExaminerIan » 24 Mar 2023 20:54

Bulldozer 1973 wrote: 24 Mar 2023 20:49 The same problem exists with SpezialTransporte.
When the ACC is active here, you can't get off the spot because the escort vehicle is too close.

Furthermore, the ACC in Europe is set to a minimum distance of 50 meters.

But this is not possible in ETS2.
I drive convoy with a German friend, and he pointed that minimum distance out a while ago, so we always used 'g_set_acc 50' in the console before 1.47beta.

Actually, he also mentioned that most truckers in Germany set 70m so that they won't stray closer than 50m if the vehicle in front slows down - drivers in real-life have ended up being fined when setting 50m then getting closer down hills or similar!

EDIT:

Also, I did drive one of the new Special Transports from Barcelona yesterday, and the cruise control was on/off so much picking up the escort vehicle that the brake lights were light disco strobes! I also could not go faster than 40-42kph with ACC on - when I turned it off, all three vehicles happily went to the 60kph limit and kept a sensible space.

One really nice improvement on Special Transports - the lead convoy vehicle moves a lot more smoothly through lane changes and the rear vehicle did not seem to get stuck in traffic as much - before, it used to wait until the last minute and sometimes let a vehicle get between it and the truck, which killed the drive because it then stopped, so got left behind. I don't know what SCS changed, but I felt the Special Transport was much better.
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#8 Post by Bulldozer 1973 » 24 Mar 2023 21:06

I have already done this because I am also a truck driver in real life.
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#9 Post by Evil_Jason » 24 Mar 2023 21:36

Hi.

When the Ai stops in front of me and I also want to stop close behind the traffic, the ACC forces the truck to stop way sooner then wanted.
If I try to close the gap, it is like a battle "engine power vs. ACC". I was not braking at all --> no brake lights

When the Ai continues driving and I want to drive off as well, the ACC still holds the truck back until the traffic hast quite some distance ahead- only then the ACC let me finally drive.

The EBS-System was never activated in the game menu.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J06JkkqEQaU

version 1.47.0.32s 64 bit

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The same happens in ATS:
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Re: Emergency braking/active cruise control issues, v1.47.0.32

#10 Post by Madkine » 25 Mar 2023 00:46

Several posts not relating to the defect have been removed. Keep general discussion of ACC/EBS to the correct forums.
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