"Province de Québec" Research Thread

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#21 Post by Laqueesha » 31 Jan 2025 04:42

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#22 Post by Cyclone » 31 Jan 2025 22:18

rookie_one wrote: 04 Oct 2021 15:04 Except for the few cities that have a bilingual status (and as such have the (in)famous stop-arrêt sign in real life), keep it in french, like it is in real life.
Late comment here, since this thread was just revived.

I have been to Quebec and can confirm that everything is in French. If you are outside more bilingual areas, you will not find English signs. Montreal is one of those that will have signs in English AFTER signs in French, or English below if on the same sign as Quebec laws require French to be the prominent language.

Funny to think that same jar of jam in the supermarket would be required to be oriented with the French label in front, even if it's the same thing you see in the rest of the continent.

Side note: highways are interesting here. I have taken Autoroute 20 during my trip into Montreal and the highway actually becomes a regular divided street at one point, with traffic signals, before returning to a highway. I am sure other highways do this too.
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#23 Post by rookie_one » 03 Feb 2025 09:01

Cyclone wrote: 31 Jan 2025 22:18 Late comment here, since this thread was just revived.

I have been to Quebec and can confirm that everything is in French. If you are outside more bilingual areas, you will not find English signs. Montreal is one of those that will have signs in English AFTER signs in French, or English below if on the same sign as Quebec laws require French to be the prominent language.

Funny to think that same jar of jam in the supermarket would be required to be oriented with the French label in front, even if it's the same thing you see in the rest of the continent.

Side note: highways are interesting here. I have taken Autoroute 20 during my trip into Montreal and the highway actually becomes a regular divided street at one point, with traffic signals, before returning to a highway. I am sure other highways do this too.
Concerning the highway, those are the exception, I know that the 20 does that when it become the 132 at Mont-Joli, but not for the rest.

Concerning the jar of jam example, the law is a bit strict on that, but it's misty a necessity by the unique situation of Quebec : unlike France which is surrounded by all different languages, Quebec is surrounded by english speaking provinces and states, so it have to be creative to protect it's own language (funny thing, the charter of french language is seen as a reference around the world for languages laws, in particular baltic states such as Estonia or Lithuania , which both used the charter as a blueprint for their own languages laws)
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#24 Post by Cyclone » 04 Feb 2025 23:17

rookie_one wrote: 03 Feb 2025 09:01
Cyclone wrote: 31 Jan 2025 22:18 Late comment here, since this thread was just revived.

I have been to Quebec and can confirm that everything is in French. If you are outside more bilingual areas, you will not find English signs. Montreal is one of those that will have signs in English AFTER signs in French, or English below if on the same sign as Quebec laws require French to be the prominent language.

Funny to think that same jar of jam in the supermarket would be required to be oriented with the French label in front, even if it's the same thing you see in the rest of the continent.

Side note: highways are interesting here. I have taken Autoroute 20 during my trip into Montreal and the highway actually becomes a regular divided street at one point, with traffic signals, before returning to a highway. I am sure other highways do this too.
Concerning the highway, those are the exception, I know that the 20 does that when it become the 132 at Mont-Joli, but not for the rest.

Concerning the jar of jam example, the law is a bit strict on that, but it's misty a necessity by the unique situation of Quebec : unlike France which is surrounded by all different languages, Quebec is surrounded by english speaking provinces and states, so it have to be creative to protect it's own language (funny thing, the charter of french language is seen as a reference around the world for languages laws, in particular baltic states such as Estonia or Lithuania , which both used the charter as a blueprint for their own languages laws)
I am attaching images of the Autoroute 20 section for those interested. I have drawn a red square on one image, which is the zoomed out view of the second image, which shows that there are traffic lights on the road.

My understanding of Quebec language law is that they can fine a company for not making the French label prominent. For products also sold in other parts of Canada and not exclusive to Quebec, that is.
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#25 Post by rookie_one » 05 Feb 2025 02:56

Ah that one part in Vaudreuil Dorion, , forgot about that, after that light it goes straight to Ontario where it become the 401.

But between Vaudreuil -Dorion and the eastern end in Mont-Joli, afaik there is no traffic lights
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#26 Post by rookie_one » 05 Feb 2025 10:39

Cyclone wrote: 04 Feb 2025 23:17 My understanding of Quebec language law is that they can fine a company for not making the French label prominent. For products also sold in other parts of Canada and not exclusive to Quebec, that is.
Concerning that, it's more than that, the Chart also guarantee the right to work in french (and a few companies have been sued successfully over that...not that some companies still tries to circumvent it), the right of service in french, etc...

You might want to read it :

https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/C-11
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#27 Post by Cyclone » 06 Feb 2025 15:50

rookie_one wrote: 05 Feb 2025 02:56 Ah that one part in Vaudreuil Dorion, , forgot about that, after that light it goes straight to Ontario where it become the 401.

But between Vaudreuil -Dorion and the eastern end in Mont-Joli, afaik there is no traffic lights
I did not go past Montreal but looked on Wikipedia and on the map. There is a 55 km gap utilizing road 132 from 542 to just before 600 via an at grade intersection, first exit in the separate section being 606. It ends at 641 at a roundabout - or as they call it, a “traffic circle”. Otherwise it seems to be all freeway.

And I know about the 401 connection; I have been there! Also drove through that town and on the Dorval roundabout of three lane hell. :)
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