SCS General Nonsense Thread

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#1171 Post by Some newbie driver » 18 Jul 2025 18:51

harishw8r wrote: 17 Jul 2025 13:06 In steamdb, coaches is more like a new game than a DLC for ETS2, hence it's not listed among the DLCs. Wonder how that will work.
I guessed more than once that SCS could do something like this:

Coaches can be a new game sharing the code base, like ATS and ETS2 do already; but also sharing the maps with ETS2. This way the game can be sold independently to people who could be only interested in coaches and it's perceived as a better deal than having to purchase a game (ETS2) in which you could not be interested only to have to pay for another DLC that is the part you are interested into. Those who own ETS2 could have the coaches part as a DLC with the same content that the standalone coaches game would have; keeping a single game, installation thus also keeping everything licensed so far under the ETS2 (in case some licenses were strictly warranted for that specific game only). Any future DLC for coaches could be added to both games (ETS2 or standalone coaches game)

The same logic could be applied for the cruising America game for those people that could like thew ide but had no intention at all to touch trucks.

They had been doing the game completely modular for years; so, with the exception of old ETS2 trucks, everything is already interchangeable and combinable whatever way SCS wants to. And the biggest and more important asset SCS has are the maps; so it has take them time already to start profitting from that in more than a single game as they had done so far.

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#1172 Post by plykkegaard » 18 Jul 2025 21:26

SCS has already said it will be addons to the current game
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#1173 Post by automaton » 19 Jul 2025 01:49

I doubt a separate game would require the base game to play...
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#1174 Post by Aziz » 19 Jul 2025 06:31

It's either standalone or it isn't.
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#1175 Post by plykkegaard » 19 Jul 2025 07:02

It would quite the effort to separate the trucks from the game
Remember most trucks in ETS2 is integrated with the base game
Yuou need to ensure the changes will work well for existing players
A lot of effort with little to no gain
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#1176 Post by Some newbie driver » 19 Jul 2025 09:06

There's absolutely no effort at all to separate old ETS2 trucks from the base game because they have already done it: it's called ATS (the same base code than ETS2 with a completely different set of assets).

So they can make a coach only game with very low technical effort if they want. That decision depends mostly on if they expect there could be lots of potential customers interested on it but that will not be willing to purchase it as a side dish of a trucks game.

Also, that's something that can change in the future. Nothing prevents them to launch it now as a ETS2 DLC only (the most probable), to decide later to release it also as standalone version if they detect that interest. Their games are more than modular enough for those decisions to be done later without any worries. At most, the person with more work on it would be the marketing team and the ones tasked with register everything in Steam.

The only thing where they are probably limited is in the possibility for people to purchase an hypothetical euro-coach only game to later decide they want to add trucks. There's a high chance they could not do that because lots of truck licenses, specially older ones, are strictly tied to ETS2 as a game not as a DLC for other games. In this case, the only way would be to allow people who have the standalone coach stuff to have at cost zero the equivalent ETS2 DLCs.

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#1177 Post by plykkegaard » 19 Jul 2025 09:12

Some newbie driver wrote: 19 Jul 2025 09:06 There's absolutely no effort at all
Right ...

As already stated by SCS the Coaches will an DLC / Addon
You need to buy ETS2 as the base game

"Absolutely no effort ..." :lol:
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#1178 Post by San_Sany4 » 19 Jul 2025 09:43

It can all change. Won't be the first time SCS have changed their minds about something. There are pros in going "separate game" way. As well as cons.
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#1179 Post by plykkegaard » 19 Jul 2025 09:52

Yeah we can end up with ETS3, ECS, ATS2 and ART
Imo the changes are substantial

First of all you need to take quick jobs with trucks out of the base game
Imo it is a technical breaking change for existing customers vs new customers you need to deal with as a software supplier every time you release a new version

It would be easier to draw a line in the sand and move on leaving existing customers behind
Sounds more like EA than SCS
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#1180 Post by Aziz » 19 Jul 2025 10:25

Ok release it as separate product
And then what
Refill it with the same exact set of non-truck dlcs?

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