Croatia pre-research tips

[scaniac]

as a IRL truck driver in Croatia, you should concider making some important local roads as DC1 known as Lička magistrala connecting Split via Knin, Gračac, Karlovac, and Zagreb up to the border with Slovenia, and DC2 known as Podravska magistrala from border with Slovenia trough cities of Varaždin, Đurđevac, Slatina, Našice, Osijek and Vukovar to border with Serbia.

Also DC 28 to Bjelovar and DC 43 from Bjelovar connecting to DC2 near Đurđevac, there is also DC34 from Slatina to Osijek going trough cities of Donji Miholjac and Valpovo and also connecting with Hungarian border.

These roads I have mentioned are important small roads in Croatia, also I must mention A1 from tunnel Sveti Rok to Zadar 1 exit can sometimes be closed for trucks and buses because of heavy wind known as bura, and there is a way around trough Gračac-Obrovac-Benkovac back on A1, or we can continue on DC1 from Gračac to Split.

One more important city in Croatia is Kutina, because there is placed fertilizer factory called Petrokemija, and it's important for croatian economy.

I have made map of some important roads in Croatia beside highway network

-RED - highway network
-LIGHT BLUE - DC1 from Split to Karlovac
-BLACK - way around Sveti Rok when A1 is closed
-GREEN - motorway to Križevci
-DARK BLUE - road from motorway via Bjelovar to DC2 near Đurđevac
-ORANGE - DC2 from Slovenian to Serbian border
-BROWN - road from Kutina to Virovitica (DC2)
-PINK - DC34 from Slatina to Osijek

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All roads mentioned here are permited for trucks

[Adriatic Sea Team]

@scaniac (SRB/HR) Pozdrav komšija, mislim da je mapa koju su postavio manje više ta koju će implementirati. E sad s'obzirom kako napreduju radovi u SCS-u ne nadam se da će DLC izaći pre početka sledeće polovine godine. Izgleda da SCS uopšte nije bio pripremljen za naš region.

(ENG) Hello neighbor, I think that map you posted will be more or less implemented. With the current progress and development in SCS's work, I'm not hoping that DLC will be released before the beginning of the next half of the year. It looks like SCS wasn't prepared well at all for our region.

[scaniac]

@scaniac (SRB/HR) Pozdrav komšija, mislim da je mapa koju su postavio manje više ta koju će implementirati. E sad s'obzirom kako napreduju radovi u SCS-u ne nadam se da će DLC izaći pre početka sledeće polovine godine. Izgleda da SCS uopšte nije bio pripremljen za naš region.

(ENG) Hello neighbor, I think that map you posted will be more or less implemented. With the current progress and development in SCS's work, I'm not hoping that DLC will be released before the beginning of the next half of the year. It looks like SCS wasn't prepared well at all for our region.

(SRB/HR) steta samo sto sam jako kasno pronasao ovu temu, posto sam i sam kamiondzija, vozim tu po HR, mogao sam im bit od velike pomoci, jedino, po mom misljenu, bilo bi dobro da od Splita urade put prema Kamenskom i dalje prema Tomislavgradu u BiH, i dole kod obilaaska Plitvica, od Lickog Petrovog Sela granicni prelaz prema Bihacu u BiH, mislim da je to granicni prelaz Izacic

(ENG) too bad I found this topic too late, I'm IRL truck driver, driving here in CRO, I could've been helpfull alot, I was thinking, it would be good iff they would make road from Split to Kamensko and further to Tomislavgrad in BiH, and down on the way around the Plitvice, from Licko Petrovo Selo border crossing to Bihac in BiH, I think it's border crossing Izacic

[Sovereign 89]

(SRB/HR) Pozdrav ekipa! Ja sam također tu iz HR, i iako nisam kamiondžija vrlo dobro sam upoznat sa našim cestama i gradovima/selima (volim putovati i prošao sam Hrvatsku uzduž i poprijeko). Nedavno sam u temu WB Expansion Discussion dao svoje viđenje potencijalne cestovne mreže koju bi SCS mogao uvrstiti u DLC i detaljno obrazložio što sve uzeti u obzir. Link na taj moj dotični post se nalazi u mom potpisu. Tako da se nadam da je ekipa iz SCS-a to vidjela i da će im biti od pomoći.

@scaniac Tvoja karta kolko vidim je na tragu mojih tako da se slažem sa svim što si stavio u nju, međutim mislim da bi bilo dobro također i Koprivnicu uzeti u obzir. Ona je najveći grad i regionalno sjedište Koprivničko-Križevačke Županije, a i ono što je još važnije jest da sadrži nekoliko važnih industrija uključujući prehrambenu (Podravka, Carlsberg), farmaceutsku industriju (Belupo), drvnu i papirnu industriju (Bilokalnik, Hartman), kožnu, metalnu te industriju građevinskog materijala. Nedaleko od grada je također tzv. Šoderica gdje se nalazi postrojenje za vađenje šljunka.

(ENG) Hi guys! I'm also from HR, and despite not being a trucker I'm very familiar with our road network and cities/villages (I love to travel a lot, and I have been all over Croatia). In WB Expansion Discussion topic I have recently provided my view on potential road network that SCS could implement in the DLC and detailly explained what they should take in consideration while doing so. The link on the said post is in my signature. All in all I'm hoping that people from SCS have seen it and that it will be of some help to them.

@scaniac Your map as I see it is very similar to mine, so I agree with everything you put in it, however I think a town of Koprivnica should be also taken in cosideration. It is the largest city and regional centre of Koprivnica-Križevci county, and what's even more important is that it contains several important industries including food (Podravka, Carlsberg), pharmaceutical industry (Belupo), wood and paper industry (Bilokalnik, Hartman), leather, metal and construction material industry. Not to far from the city is also so called ''Šoderica'' where gravel extraction plant is based.

[scaniac]

(SRB/HR) Pozdrav ekipa! Ja sam također tu iz HR, i iako nisam kamiondžija vrlo dobro sam upoznat sa našim cestama i gradovima/selima (volim putovati i prošao sam Hrvatsku uzduž i poprijeko). Nedavno sam u temu WB Expansion Discussion dao svoje viđenje potencijalne cestovne mreže koju bi SCS mogao uvrstiti u DLC i detaljno obrazložio što sve uzeti u obzir. Link na taj moj dotični post se nalazi u mom potpisu. Tako da se nadam da je ekipa iz SCS-a to vidjela i da će im biti od pomoći.

@scaniac Tvoja karta kolko vidim je na tragu mojih tako da se slažem sa svim što si stavio u nju, međutim mislim da bi bilo dobro također i Koprivnicu uzeti u obzir. Ona je najveći grad i regionalno sjedište Koprivničko-Križevačke Županije, a i ono što je još važnije jest da sadrži nekoliko važnih industrija uključujući prehrambenu (Podravka, Carlsberg), farmaceutsku industriju (Belupo), drvnu i papirnu industriju (Bilokalnik, Hartman), kožnu, metalnu te industriju građevinskog materijala. Nedaleko od grada je također tzv. Šoderica gdje se nalazi postrojenje za vađenje šljunka.

(ENG) Hi guys! I'm also from HR, and despite not being a trucker I'm very familiar with our road network and cities/villages (I love to travel a lot, and I have been all over Croatia). In WB Expansion Discussion topic I have recently provided my view on potential road network that SCS could implement in the DLC and detailly explained what they should take in consideration while doing so. The link on the said post is in my signature. All in all I'm hoping that people from SCS have seen it and that it will be of some help to them.

@scaniac Your map as I see it is very similar to mine, so I agree with everything you put in it, however I think a town of Koprivnica should be also taken in cosideration. It is the largest city and regional centre of Koprivnica-Križevci county, and what's even more important is that it contains several important industries including food (Podravka, Carlsberg), pharmaceutical industry (Belupo), wood and paper industry (Bilokalnik, Hartman), leather, metal and construction material industry. Not to far from the city is also so called ''Šoderica'' where gravel extraction plant is based.

(BHS) sve je to u redu, al znam ja nas mentalitet, sad bi svi da cesta u igrici ide bas kroz njihovo selo, nema veze sto je 20km negdje bogu iza ledja, samo da se moze kamionom proc pored kuce, a sto se Koprivnice tice, ja se apsolutno slazem s tobom, bio sam i u podravci, i u bilokalniku, i harmanu, i u carlsbergu, ali moras shvatit da je ets2 mapa 20x manja, i sad kad bi oni uz MOZDA Varazdin napravili Koprivnicu, pa mozda i Bjelovar, to bi sve bilo prakticki spojeno sa Zagrebom, i sta smo onda napravili?

(ENG) that's all correct, but knowingly our mentality, everyone wants to be able drive trough their own village, doesn't matter it's at middle of nowhere, and about Koprivnica, I agreed with you, I was in Koprivnica at Podravka, at Bilokalnik, at Hartman, at Carlsberg, but you have to understand ets2 map is 20x smaller, and iff they, with MAYBE Varazdin make Koprivnica, and maybe Bjelovar, it would be let's say connected with Zagreb, and in that case it's not fun

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(BHS) pogledao sam sad malo detaljnije onu moju kartu, i DC2 prolazi upravo kroz Koprivnicu, ako ce ju i ubacivat, to ce bit eventualno neka kuca, i onako u daljini neka prepoznatljiva zgrada, isto kao sto znam za Osijek primjer, da ce napravit u daljini da se vidi eurodom i katedrala, mada u promods mapi ti zapravo mozes proc kamionom pored eurodoma kao i u stvarnosti

(ENG) I have take a look at my map, and DC2 goes exactly trough Koprivnica, and iff they will make it, it would be maybe some house, and far away some recognisable building, same as, I know, for Osijek, for example, they will make eurodom and cathedral you can see far away, altough in promods map you are able to drive beside eurodom as in real life

[Sovereign 89]

(HR) Da, istina jest to što kažeš. Nema dovoljno mjesta za predstaviti svaki grad i selo iz kojeg igrači dolaze (ja sam iz Zagreba doduše tako da nemam tih problema ), ali za Koprivnicu se nikako ne može reći da je bilo koji grad/selo. Zapravo smatram da je industrijski važnija čak i od Varaždina kojeg spominješ. Uzmemo li to sve u obzir, ono što se može napraviti jest da bude uključena u DLC kao neobilježeni grad i da na tom mjestu budu dva pogona (naprimjer Podravka i Belupo) koji se zapravo vežu za Varaždin.
S druge strane što se Bjelovara tiče sumnjam da ćemo njega vidjeti, jer od oba grada i plus Virotivice je iz perspektive SCS-a od manje važnosti i nalazi se na nezgodnom području u blizini svih njih te i Zagreba naposljetku. Čak nisam ni Varaždin siguran da li će biti uključen, ali postoje definitivno veće šanse da bude nego Bjelovar.
I znam za Promods, jer imam sekundarni profil koji koristim za modove tako da sam vidio njihovu verziju Balkanskog dijela mape i šire. Tamo nema ni Varaždina ni Koprivnice, ali ima zato Virovitice, koja je iako važan grad, opet manje bitna od Koprivnice što se industrijskog dijela tiče. Da sam ja na mjestu SCS-a odlučio bih se prije uvrstiti Koprivnicu nego Viroviticu baš zbog toga.

(ENG) Yes, that is true. There's not enough place to represent every city and village all the players come from (I'm from Zagreb though, so I don't have such problem ), but one can't say for Koprivnica to be in that category. As a matter of fact I think when it comes to industry that it is even more important than Varaždin you mentioned. If if take all that in consideration, what can be done is to make Koprivnica as unmarked, or so called scenic city, with 2 prefabs in its place (for example Podravka and Belupo) that would fall under Varaždin.
On the other hand when it comes to Bjelovar I doubt will see it in game, because of both towns plus Virovitica it is less relevant from SCS's standpoint, and it is in really uncanny position due to it being in proximity to all of those, as well as Zagreb. I'm not even sure Varaždin gets included, but there are definitely more chances for it to be then Bjelovar.
Also I do know about Promods, because I have secondary/alternate profile which I use specifically for playing with mods, so I have been able to see their presentation of Balkan area of map and more. There's no either Varaždin, or Koprivnica, but Virovitica yes despite being less important city industrially compared to Koprivnica. If I was in SCS's position I'd go with Koprivnica before Virovitica due to that fact.

[scaniac]

(HR) ajmo sad realno, ono sto ce bit u ets2 mapi Hrvatske su Osijek, Zagreb, Rijeka, Pula, Zadar, Split i Dubrovnik, i da budemo realni, netreba vise nista ni ocekivati

(ENG) let's be real, what will be in ets2 map of Croatia is Osijek, Zagreb, Rijeka, Pula, Zadar, Split i Dubrovnik, and let's be real, we don't need to expect anything more

[Sovereign 89]

(HR) Ok, s tim se većinom slažem. To je minimum minimuma koji se može očekivati. Čak je i Pula upitna doduše, s ozbirom da je u blizini 3 veća i važnija grada (Rijeka, Koper i Trieste). No s druge strane, ako Pula može, onda bi se našlo mjesta za Varaždin, Koprivnicu i Slavonski Brod (zapravo za SB mislim da su čak veće šanse da ga dobimo nego Pulu naprimjer). Sve u svemu budemo vidjeli prije ili kasnije što će SCS odlučiti.

(ENG) Alright, I mostly agree with that. It is a bare minimum that can be expected. Although inclusion of Pula is still not certain, due to the fact it is in close proximity to 3 larger and more important cities (Rijeka, Koper and Trieste). On the other hand if Pula can get in, I'm sure there's a place for Varaždin, Koprivnica and Slavonski Brod too (actually when it come to SB I believe there are greater chances we got it then Pula for example). All in all we'll see what SCS will decide sooner or later.

[krmarci]

I found some signage errors in the game files: viewtopic.php?t=322790

[Madkine]

@krmarci Make bug reports, they are unlikely to be seen here.