Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3971 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 25 Mar 2023 07:40

Maybe the Rework Team can be split into two teams: 6 people (3 senior + 3 junior) for the California Rework Team and 4 people (2 senior + 2 junior) for the Nevada Rework Team.
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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3972 Post by flight50 » 25 Mar 2023 07:47

Vinnie Terranova wrote: 25 Mar 2023 07:27 What exactly do you mean...? At the intersection I-80 / I-90 with the I-94 you can see that the I-80 and the I-90 are clearly not separated:
You can go back and re-read my edit that I did before you posted this comment.
flight50 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 06:57 edit. Okay I jumped into Google Street view and followed I-80 which ends at exit 16. There is a little bypass to merge into I-90 that way. This explains how I-80 continues on. So yeah they don't really cross there like I was thinking but they do however separate back out eventually like I was mentioning.
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#3973 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 25 Mar 2023 08:37

As far as I understand, west of that intersection I-80 is concurrent with the I-94. Just west of that intersection I-80 separates from the I-94 and then joins the I-90:

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#3974 Post by flight50 » 25 Mar 2023 09:24

You're path is showing the exact same thing I typed in the quote of myself above your post. What's the point of posting the image if that's what I just posted.
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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3975 Post by Vinnie Terranova » 25 Mar 2023 09:28

This is what made your first post very confusing:
flight50 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 02:30Technically 80 and 90 do cross but not in Chicago. It's East of Gary Indiana where they cross but they stay separate interstates.
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#3976 Post by paytonsnewheart » 25 Mar 2023 11:17

flight50 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 06:57
explosion65 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 03:27

This is actually incorrect. According to the Wikipedia page on Interstate 80, it is concurrent with Interstate 90 from Portage, IN (just east of Gary, IN) to Elyria, OH near Cleveland where they then separate with I-90 heading to Erie, PA and I-80 continuing towards Youngstown, OH.


I believe the I-80/I-90 concurrency is in fact the longest in the Interstate system.
@paytonsnewheart I assume you mean what is concurrent? That means road names share a common path. The roads merge. This is when you see one road have 2 or more road names. Whether its interstates, US Highways, State Highways, Loops or Spurs.
Oh, it said you replied to the thread, but when I clicked on the notification, nothing was there.

Okay, at first I thought I-80 and I-90 merged in Chicago, but they do not. I looked for myself too. I guess I thought they did because I know I-80 and I-90 merge in Cleveland since I take that route to the Cleveland Clinic.
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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3977 Post by flight50 » 25 Mar 2023 13:59

Vinnie Terranova wrote: 25 Mar 2023 09:28 This is what made your first post very confusing:
flight50 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 02:30Technically 80 and 90 do cross but not in Chicago. It's East of Gary Indiana where they cross but they stay separate interstates.
Agreed but that's why I made the edit. Your focusing on the first post instead of the edit.

@paytonsnewheart Actually 80 and 90 merge just East of Gary Indiana and unmerge just West of Cleveland.
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#3978 Post by TheAmir259 » 25 Mar 2023 15:03

Is it not clear that Flight50 is talking about where it is crossing and not where it is concurrent? I believe there's no need to make it more complicated if we actually take the time to reread the points.

Also i disagree about how Wiki is an unreliable source. It isn't as easily-edited without the moderators coming and cleaning it back. For me, it is a very narrow thinking which could be similar to one saying the Oxford Dictionary cannot always be trusted just because you do not trust the authorities etc. But i'll end it right there for now since that is a bit off-topic.
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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3979 Post by paytonsnewheart » 26 Mar 2023 04:22

flight50 wrote: 25 Mar 2023 13:59
Vinnie Terranova wrote: 25 Mar 2023 09:28 This is what made your first post very confusing:

Agreed but that's why I made the edit. Your focusing on the first post instead of the edit.

@paytonsnewheart Actually 80 and 90 merge just East of Gary Indiana and unmerge just West of Cleveland.

Yes, they separate in Lorain County, in Cleveland. I guess I am wondering if Pavel, since he's aiming for the Great Lakes, would want to continue to add Interstate 90 due to scenery. In Chicago, it's near Lake Michigan, and in Cleveland, you can get a nice view of Lake Erie from the interstate that continues east to Pennsylvania and even New York if you go on I-90. Again, I'm sorry if it's off topic for this thread. I saw you mention Chicago and was just wondering.
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Re: Base Map Rebuild (CA, NV, AZ) General Discussion Thread

#3980 Post by flight50 » 26 Mar 2023 06:16

I'm not sure if roads are really determined by Pavel honestly. Its mostly by the map leads and the research team I bet. I don't see a reason to sever I-90. That would be a huge mistake. All coast to coast Interstates and US highways should be continuous. Especially the Interstates. SCS can't break those. US highways can break up here and there. So far US-20 and US-50 are showing continuous East to West. US-2 hopefully does that.

There's a real chance that I-80 could be the first coast to coast Interstate road in ATS. At one point, I-10 was assumed to be that road. But with the Great Lakes in mind, the MidWest seems like the focus for now. Whether SCS doubles back and fills in the South before the East arrives is the question. Once Chicago is in, we are only 4 states to the end of I-80 hitting I-95 in New Jersey.

When Wyoming came, I was convinced that I-80 in Nevada would be highly anticipated. Wyoming makes Nevada's portion of I-80 look like it was made 20 years ago. Getting Nevada's I-80 on the same level as Wyoming will return Nevada to a more traveled state. Not all of us use map mods. SN makes Nevada a lot more fun to drive but a redone SCS Nevada would be ideal for those that don't want to use map mods.
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