Wyoming Discussion Thread

[flight50]

As we get into the Great Plains, more US road density should kick in.

I hope not... The more US roads we get, the harder it will be for SCS to recreate the vibe of the plains. Because for the plains we need emptyness. A lot of emptyness. And that means: not too many roads, please.

2 things I'll point out.

1) Most people don't want to pay $11.99 for an empty dlc. People complain about not enough roads for alternate routes. Not many request for empty. People say Wyoming should fill empty just because of the low population. It feels just as empty as Nevada to me but a much more updated dlc. The cities are just larger than Nevada but the space is still pretty open imho.
2) road density does not mean it can't feel empty still. If you take Google Street view trips, on many of these US roads, you will noticed they are mountainous, hilly, flat and/or
full of vegetation. You'll come up on small establishments here and there but that's a given. The most empty in the Great Plains will come along the interstates vs back roads. People only live off interstate in bigger cities. Small scenic towns take less space and should feel isolated.

Denser road just provide alternate routes to link up the lack of interstates. Look at Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota and North Dakota. Each has 1-2 interstates max. You're saying don't bring US road density to get from one interstate to the other? The Great Plains will more than likely feature a lot of Agriculture. To get to that, we'll need a lot of US roads because they won't be off the interstates. We'll have to drive back roads to reach them.

[harishw8r]

One thing I'm worried about the GP states is the elevation changes. If any, they have to be very subtle, I'm afraid they might be steep enough to make a downshift, like the road between Denver and Burlington, near Limon.

[oldmanclippy]

There's plenty of elevation change in the plains states. I-90 westbound descending to cross the Missouri in Chamberlain, SD. US-75 climbing northbound out of Sioux City, IA. US-85 between Belfield and Watford City, ND. Oklahoma has mountains, MN/WI/IA have the Driftless Area, etc. It's not all flat.

[Trakaplex]

oldmanclippy US-85 fro Spearfish SD to Williston ND? Atleast that far north.

Moorcroft WY, ingame it is quite close to Sundance. Between Linden and Sundance, actually.
We will have to wait and see what road connections there will be to South Dakota, from Wyoming.
I-90, we do know. But the others?
US-85? possible.
US-16? possible.
US-18? possible.
US-212? That I think might be a MT-SD connecting road.

Broadus was confirmed through a sign in the Wyoming devcam, as well with MT-59, so US-212 to Belle Fourche is definite to be in there.

[harishw8r]

There's plenty of elevation change in the plains states. I-90 westbound descending to cross the Missouri in Chamberlain, SD. US-75 climbing northbound out of Sioux City, IA. US-85 between Belfield and Watford City, ND. Oklahoma has mountains, MN/WI/IA have the Driftless Area, etc. It's not all flat.

I didn't mean those though, but the ones like this from the Texas blog:
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In real life, it would be subtle, but in the game scale, it looks steep, and the changes are reflected in the truck physics too.

[flight50]

Brodus nor MT-59 confirms we get to go East from the MT-59 @ US-212 junction yet. We still have to wait until South Dakota extension roads are made. Broadus is West of that junction. Had it been East of it, yeah we just might be able to pencil in US-212 into SD.

[Shiva]

Broadus was confirmed through a sign in the Wyoming devcam, as well with MT-59, so US-212 to Belle Fourche is definite to be in there.

Ah, Montana? Yes, there is work towards the Montana border, on WY-59.
Right now, it ends just southwest of where WY-59 meets Old WY-59.
And on the ingame map, vs IRL, that is somewhere around 820-1180 Elk Creek Rd, Gillette, WY.
27miles difference.

[oldmanclippy]

Someone brought up the point previously that MT-59 and Broadus doesn't mean we'll get US-212 between I-90 and MT-59 with Montana's release. That road doesn't really do a lot for us until South Dakota if Broadus is scenic as it most likely will be, so it could be a segment that SCS skips for now and adds to Montana DLC when SD comes out.

[Shiva]

oldmanclippy, I do think we will get atleast some connection to an Interstate, but will it be US-212 to I-90 or MT-59 to I-94? or Both?
I do hope for both!

[flight50]

No reason to not have both honestly. They are so spread apart. It would be ideal to get Spearfish marked with Belle Fouche and Sturgis as scenic supporting cities with depots. That complements Gillette and Rapid City. That border area could be a nice little mapped area.