Oklahoma Discussion Thread
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oldmanclippy, it could be scenery atleast?
Ellie, that would have been nice.
But it is in a tight spot between I-40 and US-412. And I-44, north of US-412.
Ellie, that would have been nice.
But it is in a tight spot between I-40 and US-412. And I-44, north of US-412.
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Re: Oklahoma Discussion Thread
Silly me for forgetting about the existence of Tahlequah, but I've got a feeling this city could be skipped in favor of Muskogee plus Fort Smith/Fayetteville whenever Arkansas comes around.
Also hope SCS doesn't forget about Frontier City, a pretty decent-sized theme park located off I-35 in OKC. Like Six Flags Over Texas off I-30 in Arlington, this would be great to see from I-35. https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5842866 ... 384!8i8192
Also hope SCS doesn't forget about Frontier City, a pretty decent-sized theme park located off I-35 in OKC. Like Six Flags Over Texas off I-30 in Arlington, this would be great to see from I-35. https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5842866 ... 384!8i8192
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It was obvious because it's just how SCS works, but Davido says his team is already on the next state. No surprise there but nice to hear him say it.
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Re: Oklahoma Discussion Thread
Perhaps 2023 will be OK, KS and NE!? Would be great because Oklahoma will give us a nice stretch of I-40, Kansas will give us a nice stretch of I-70 and Nebraska will give us a nice stretch of I-80.
Both NE and KS are not that dense and most roads are fairly straight.
Both NE and KS are not that dense and most roads are fairly straight.
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Might as well be possible. These states are vast, not a lot of big cities and despite their high road density, there will be scale limitations so yeah, can be pulled off in a year.
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Well, three states besides the current ones are in the pre-production. My theory above is probably right.
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I think you mentioned this in the "Choose the Next state" thread. But its the opposite of what you are thinking. All three of those state are quite dense. All three have more lane miles than every state in the West except California.55sixxx wrote: ↑04 Aug 2022 15:39 Perhaps 2023 will be OK, KS and NE!? Would be great because Oklahoma will give us a nice stretch of I-40, Kansas will give us a nice stretch of I-70 and Nebraska will give us a nice stretch of I-80.
Both NE and KS are not that dense and most roads are fairly straight.
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Utah - 93,914
Idaho - 98,132
Colorado - 183,498
Wyoming - 58,385
Montana - 151,209
Oklahoma - 235,004
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These 3 state might be a tad easier to map because of the terrain compared to the West, but they will still require a lot of work if we get density. Each road they add will need a lot details. We could see a decent amount of scenic towns in all 3 states though. Fewer large cities will really make these states seem larger than they are.
My post are only thoughts and ideas. Don't assume it makes ATS.
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One thing to remember about lane mileage is that the 1:20 scale effectively means that it has diminishing returns after a certain point. You can't map every road in a small area, after all, and many of them are going to be effectively redundant with each other - especially as a lot of that density is concentrated in the eastern half of the state. This is doubly true if there aren't a lot of major cities, since the main purpose of roads in ATS is to connect those.
I agree, if nothing else, that these states should have more content than some here are thinking, and that they should be relatively dense... but it'll probably be less dense than Washington, both in terms of city count (probably ~70% of WA) and appearance (straight roads will make the map look a lot emptier than the northwest's borderline-psychedelic twists.) The next column (Minnesota through Louisiana) will probably return to Washington-tier density full time, and the one after that will hopefully go further beyond... if feasible.
But we'll see how east Texas goes, since east Texas is pretty comparable in terms of density - somewhat fewer roads, but much much larger cities to balance it.
I agree, if nothing else, that these states should have more content than some here are thinking, and that they should be relatively dense... but it'll probably be less dense than Washington, both in terms of city count (probably ~70% of WA) and appearance (straight roads will make the map look a lot emptier than the northwest's borderline-psychedelic twists.) The next column (Minnesota through Louisiana) will probably return to Washington-tier density full time, and the one after that will hopefully go further beyond... if feasible.
But we'll see how east Texas goes, since east Texas is pretty comparable in terms of density - somewhat fewer roads, but much much larger cities to balance it.
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Agreed that every road will not be mapped. But if you take the 1:1 numbers and factor it in a 1:20 equation, those 1:1 numbers are uniformly scaled down. So the numbers can still be used as a guide.
Density comes in more ways than one. You can get it with terrain modeling, vegetation and cut planes. So straight roads, doesn't matter. Its the environment that matters. How far in the distance does it make sense to put mountains, buildings, vegetation or cut planes. The straight roads could have just as much density given that the limit is 1500 meters draw distance. On the back side of that 1500 meter another road can exist. SCS could even take that 1500 down to 1000 or 1200 I'm sure to gain a bit more space. I think we go round and around on the subject of density as a community but SCS already has this stuff figured out already. They don't have a choice. Eastern Colorado and Eastern Montana gives us a pretty good idea before Texas even comes out on how things could be. Texas blogs show somewhat how they will solve flater lands. There are 3d tricks that can done to create endless looking field which in turn, gets in a bit more roads than some expect.
Density comes in more ways than one. You can get it with terrain modeling, vegetation and cut planes. So straight roads, doesn't matter. Its the environment that matters. How far in the distance does it make sense to put mountains, buildings, vegetation or cut planes. The straight roads could have just as much density given that the limit is 1500 meters draw distance. On the back side of that 1500 meter another road can exist. SCS could even take that 1500 down to 1000 or 1200 I'm sure to gain a bit more space. I think we go round and around on the subject of density as a community but SCS already has this stuff figured out already. They don't have a choice. Eastern Colorado and Eastern Montana gives us a pretty good idea before Texas even comes out on how things could be. Texas blogs show somewhat how they will solve flater lands. There are 3d tricks that can done to create endless looking field which in turn, gets in a bit more roads than some expect.
My post are only thoughts and ideas. Don't assume it makes ATS.
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For current dlcs, seems there are no tricks and to create such views, SCS uses available space as much as needed.
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