[REL] [1.43] RJL Scania T v21.12.9

[Winchester1979]

Alright I'll have a look at the paint jobs again at some point. And yes, the 10x chassis are obsolete as they will be removed in the next update. This decision was made together with RJL as those chassis do not function properly in the game and in reality are very rarely, if ever, used as a tractor chassis. The 8x chassis are intended for heavy haul for those wondering.

Ahem. They are indeed used as tractor chassis, at least with the R, G and P cabs, with lots of examples findable on google using "scania 10x4 tractor" as your search terms. T cabs, not so much, but I sincerely hope that you're not planning on removing them from the R/Streamline mod...

(Edit: I just looked and it appears you are, as they're marked obsolete in the R mod as well. Which is tremendously disappointing, I use those...mainly for special transports.)

[Nufnsuss]

Pity to remove those chassis, it may surprise you how many people use them. I always use the 10x4 for special transports as well, even using the broken ones now. At least I still have the 10x4 R1150 by Kasuy(almost fully functional).

I might still use the RJL from time to time, but nowhere near as much. If it comes with pretty much standard chassis set from Scania, apart from the tuning, what will differentiate between the RJL and stock(there are enough tuning mods out there to fill the void)???

[LoaderSaints]

@Winchester1979 I never said that there aren't any tractors with a 10x chassis but such tractors are very rare and serve a special purpose. There are no suitable trailers for them in-game so there really is no point in having them.

@Nufnsuss RJL trucks have more cabin and chassis options along with other, older, year model variants compared to the stock SCS trucks. Whether you use the mod or not is entirely up to you and doesn't affect me in any way. I simply keep these mods up to date on behalf of RJL.

[scaniar620]

Please review the decision to remove the 10x4 chassis.
Maybe let it [obsolet] as it is now?

[LoaderSaints]

I'll discuss it again with RJL. Perhaps simply moving the 5th wheel to a more realistic position would make the chassis work better.

[Winchester1979]

I'll discuss it again with RJL. Perhaps simply moving the 5th wheel to a more realistic position would make the chassis work better.

I did some quick testing, since I not only use the RJL 10x4, but also a Scania NG 10x4/6 that I cobbled together out of an old, old 10x4*6 mod for 1.32 and am still considering whether it's ready to release...

With the ownable SCS low loader, there's enough clearance and then some between the gooseneck and the rear bumper of the 10xX chassis with the fifth wheel in its current position:

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For this application, the location of the fifth wheel is basically perfect the way it is, and since it's essentially the same mesh with different extra bits, it also applies to the special transport low loaders.

The ownable low *bed* trailer on the other hand has much less space aft of the kingpin, and as such the taillights will clip the landing legs of the trailer. Which is unfortunate, but then again I can't find much evidence of anyone using 10x4s to haul low bed trailers, it's all low loaders in the pictures i can see. Or possibly ballast trailers, which are flat bed trailers with multiple axles and steering on a bunch of them. (These were AFAIK developed for hauling crane ballast blocks, hence the name.)

Also, the 4-axle low loader in particular is pretty much perfect for the 10xX chassis due to following the rule of balance - four axles on the trailer to match the four axles under the front end of it. Most legit heavy haul combos appear to at least try to follow that, or they have more axles forward than aft.

Basically... the current chassis is fine the way it is, so long as you use it for its intended purpose, which is hauling low loaders. It hooks up nicely to the low loaders with advanced trailer coupling, it turns around corners without clipping, and I do believe it enhances maneuverability over a 4+1 and 8x4 combination, even in game, which would have the same allowed total weight. (I believe it also hooks up nicely to Jazzycat's stuff without clipping when you turn, but that, I haven't checked recently.)

[LoaderSaints]

No, the 5th wheel needs to be moved forward a bit (some 200 to 400 mm).

[Winchester1979]

That would make it even less compatible as far as I can tell. I can't exactly measure the space between the corner of the truck and the gooseneck, but I think 400 mm is the absolute top of what you can do with that.

[WolfRamXX_CZ]

the 10x chassis are obsolete as they will be removed in the next update

Sad I like those and use them for heavy hauling. If they would be kept at least as addon i would be more than fine with it but completely deleting them is just waste potential...

[SilverVisage2000]

Greetings fellow truckers! does anyone know a nice custom interior for the T cab? preferably free. Thanks, Cheers!