Engine upgrade and DX12 coming to ETS2 and ATS!

[xXCARL1992Xx]

when the GPU released is totally irrelevant, all nvidia cards 900 series up are DX12 compatible, dont know where it starts for AMD but it should be the same time around nvidias 900 series release

[flight50]

^If that's for me, I never said anything about when a gpu released. I only mentioned when I built my pc and that I changed the card a year later. It was built to work from home originally but I ended up playing games on it more.

Either way, the future will get a bump in spec requirements. Either comply to advance or stay behind.

[xXCARL1992Xx]

" As much as I'd like SCS to go DX12 ultimate, my card does not meet that though. DX12 came out in 2020."

it was 2014, als DX ultimate is just a marketing name, it adds new functions SCS cant use anyway for now (better Raytracing, Mesh Shading and Variable Rate Shading) and even if they use them, DX12 is backwards compatible, those it has nothing to do with, when and what released where, SCS has to see to support the bigger mass with better hardware and those are all people with at least a GTX 9XX card up (and equivalent on AMDs side) better would be GTX 10XX up (and equivalent on AMDs side)

[flight50]

Dx12 is not a card sir. It's an api. But you already know that. My words are not not saying when a gpu released. Its says when dx12 ultimate releasesd. You're twisting my words. You can research dx12 ultimate if you'd like. You probably won't though. Marketing name or not dx12 ultimate is not the same iteration as standard dx12.

[xXCARL1992Xx]

this is still DX12, DX12_3 to be precise and is still based on the 2014 released DX12 and compatible will all cards that use DX12 from Nvidia GTX950 upwards to a RTX 4090, so it doesnt matter what SCS uses, it will still work on all cards that can do DX12 in hardware, it would even possible run on GPUs in Software but i doubt it, fact is just because DX12 Ultimate is used does not mean all GPUs 2020 and before wont run it, and that is exactly what you insinuated, i did my own throughout reading into DX12 so i know what works and what not, and saying a 1080 will not work with the game anymore just because they use DX12U is nonsense

fact is, DX12 ultimate is just a term used for marketing purposes and has nothing to do with it being a new DirectX, which it isnt, it adds new feauters and make cross development between PC and Xbox even easier (1:1 same API and not 2 platform tailored APIs), but it doesnt meant that people with a GTX 10XX card cant play any games anymore that use DX12U

[flight50]

You are arguing 2 different points now. At first you calm I mentioned gpu release matters. Now you are arguing DX12 ultimate possibly running on DX12 cards. The latter of the 2, I have no idea......so I looked into it (the below snip it). I just know that when I run diadiag on my machine, it only says DX12. Of course you know what you're talking about. You're the Great Carl, why would I ever doubt you.

In following what I've seen online, the reference is below to see what my card supports. So I guess its my fault for using this reference right? Your question should have been..... why do I think my card won't work and I could have told you. Instead as usual you like to be typical Carl without asking questions first.
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[Berniyh]

I built my pc back in 2016. I have not updated anything except the gpu in 2017 because I didn't need to currently. I upgraded from a workstation card to a GTX 1080 gpu is which was DX12 already though. As much as I'd like SCS to go DX12 ultimate, my card does not meet that though. DX12 came out in 2020. That would reduce the player base even more beyond 2020. I have to agree with Some newbie driver. SCS will just probably start off which regular DX12. They started delovloping it before DX12 ultimate release. There's plenty of time ahead to upgrade.

But taking people from DX11 to DX12 ultimate is an even larger jump hardware wise that SCS might try to minimize as much as possible. As long as multi core and multi threading are implemented, the benefits to DX12 added should open up a lot more opportunities. For desktop players, updating is easier done than laptop players though. So not everyone playing with non DX12 cards can upgrade as easily.

DX12 Ultimate (or feature level 12_2) isn't realistic, there is way to much that would be left behind.*
If anything, then maybe there are some optional features that can be enabled on supporting cards, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Especially wouldn't bet on the implementation of DXR, as the efficiency is just too low, it's mostly a waste of computing resources.
12_1 (Geforce 900 or later, Vega or later) is more realistic.

* that is unless they plan to keep DX11 for a much longer time than even I expect.

[xXCARL1992Xx]

i have a 3070 and there is no DX Ultimate in DXdiag either (ofc Windows 10 is updated beyond the version needed, 2004 or something but Windows 10 wont show this in DXDiag anyway, only Windows 11 does), you constantly say you wont be able to play the game IF SCS decides to use DX12U, i say this is nonsense, because you still will be able to play the games

the only thing you wont get is the 3 big new feauters advertised with it, better RayTracing (even with DX12 you wouldnt get it because it isn an RTX card) Mesh Shading and Variable Rate Shading, you say people who bought a card before 2020 will not be able to play the games IF SCS decides to use DX12U, which is FALSE, so it doesnt matter when what GPU released as long as is it at least GTX 900 or higher

just to jumpstart your brain, your EXACT words:

"I upgraded from a workstation card to a GTX 1080 gpu is which was DX12 already though. As much as I'd like SCS to go DX12 ultimate, my card does not meet that though. DX12 came out in 2020. That would reduce the player base even more beyond 2020."

the GPU release is utterly irrelevant for 5 generations of nvidia GPUs, there will be nothing reduced, people with GTX900 and GTX1000 series will be just as able to play these games, if it would have DX12U, as i would be able to play it with my RTX3070, is this so hard to comprehend ?

and YOU read about DX12 ?

An Additive Benefit

DirectX12 Ultimate is fundamentally an additive initiative that provides gamers with assurance that their hardware meets the highest bar for feature support in next-generation games.

It is very important to note that DX12 Ultimate will not impact game compatibility with existing hardware which does not support the entire breath of DX12 Ultimate features. In fact, next-generation games which use DX12 Ultimate features will continue to run on non-DX12 Ultimate hardware. Though such hardware won’t provide the visual benefits of the new features, it can still provide a very compelling gaming experience on next generation games, depending on the specifics of the hardware.

The PC ecosystem encompasses a broad variety of hardware and DX12 Ultimate makes that ecosystem strictly better with no adverse effect on hardware which does not support DX12 Ultimate!

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/ ... -ultimate/

[Berniyh]

the only thing you wont get is the 3 big new feauters advertised with it, better RayTracing (even with DX12 you wouldnt get it because it isn an RTX card)

https://www.techpowerup.com/254528/nvid ... e-gtx-gpus

Not that there is a point in using it …

[xXCARL1992Xx]

software ray tracing, yeah, not worth it at all and you dont even get DLSS with it to make it bearable iirc, not that DLSS 1.0 would have helped much