Guessing the possible Aegean DLC content

[Trucker Nik]

@Ch_R0me The easternmost common known city in HoR is Nizhny Nogograd, if you look at the map this city is located further (as the crow flies south of the city) than the border of Turkey and Syria, (optically) I see no reason not to add the whole of Turkey to the map, second option, Nizhny. Novgograd will probably be the easternmost city in the whole ETS2 map, Pavel said in one interview that they did not plan further than the HoR, but they could if they want to map the whole of European Russia, it is based on 5-6 more DLC the border of Europe and Asia is further eastern than the border of Turkey and Syria

[Ch_R0me]

@Ch_R0me The easternmost common known city in HoR is Nizhny Nogograd, if you look at the map this city is located further (as the crow flies south of the city) than the border of Turkey and Syria, (optically) I see no reason not to add the whole of Turkey to the map, second option, Nizhny. Novgograd will probably be the easternmost city in the whole ETS2 map, Pavel said in one interview that they did not plan further than the HoR, but they could if they want to map the whole of European Russia, it is based on 5-6 more DLC the border of Europe and Asia is further eastern than the border of Turkey and Syria

Well, let's hope for the best, then.

[oldmanclippy]

Continental Greece + Crete would still be significantly smaller than Washington state, with probably a similar road and city density. It's difficult for me to see it being its own DLC. An Idaho-like DLC won't fly with ETS2 fans at $11.99.

I don't think an ATS-sized DLC is ruled out for Greece though. Instead of adding the entirety of Anatolia, they could go as far east as Ankara and call it a day, leaving the rest for another ATS-sized DLC of just Turkey east of Ankara. Otherwise, I think Anatolia (the peninsula) will be what Greece comes with.

Then again, it sounds like Turkey might be doing its own "international adventuring" soon which could complicate things. Probably won't impact marketability / SCS's ability to physically sell copies there like with HoR but still. I don't envy the people in charge of planning future DLCs at SCS, except for maybe the ones planning Northern Scandinavia

[JaDaKa]

Thing is there is no ferry connection between Greece and Turkey, hence the only way to reach the rest of the latter would be through the existing city of Istanbul.

Wouldn't that be boring? I don't see what's wrong with a smaller DLC at a bit lower price. Greece & Cyprus could be enough.

I think SCS should really focus in revamping the older parts of the base game.
Even DLC maps have started to show their age now, like France..

Thing is idk how they are going to provide all these free updates and still make profit. They should be creating some other kind of paid DLC too.

Who knows maybe an expansion like "Seasons" or other gameplay DLCs could be another way.

[oldmanclippy]

@JaDaKa I suppose that could cause problems by requiring RttBS to access both parts of the Aegean DLC without fast travel. But owning Aegean without RttBS would be silly unless you only care about Greece. In real life, Istanbul is the bottleneck so it's fitting that it would be the bottleneck in-game. Yeah it could get repetitive, but if that's how it is in real life then there's little SCS can do about it.

[Ch_R0me]

@JaDaKa I suppose that could cause problems by requiring RttBS to access both parts of the Aegean DLC without fast travel. But owning Aegean without RttBS would be silly unless you only care about Greece. In real life, Istanbul is the bottleneck so it's fitting that it would be the bottleneck in-game. Yeah it could get repetitive, but if that's how it is in real life then there's little SCS can do about it.

I've checked the Pique Ferry webpage: https://www.pique-ferry.de/truck-ferry- ... lands.html

And unfortunately, you (and @JaDaKa as well) are right, unless SCS would go with the creative liberty like they did with Austria (and one route normally closed for HGV traffic).

If they could, then my proposal would be good: Athens (via Piraeus as a port) to Izmir (via Cesme as a port). Also, that would open up the italian Trieste (from talks about West Balkans), to Istanbul and Izmir as well, along with and Toulon near Marseille, France (OK, since the former have a working port to Corsica, it would be fixed to that city to ease up things) to Istanbul as well (by the way, why such connection isn't done in first place? Would be a great, but very costly shortcut between RttBS and VlF distant cities).

[alluke]

Then again, it sounds like Turkey might be doing its own "international adventuring" soon which could complicate things. Probably won't impact marketability / SCS's ability to physically sell copies there like with HoR but still.

This is good enough reason to leave Turkey out as long as the Cockroach King is in power. Was even surprised to see SCS add Serbia since it's similar sleazehole.

[JaDaKa]

Well it is because it is not about politics really but about the people's interaction in the social media?

Not too many people in the West care about what Turkey does, although their army has been committing atrocities against Kurds in Syria (or even in Turkey itself) for years.
It is just recently that has started been discussed due to their stance towards Finland and Sweden.

Personally the best and safest option is to release Greece and Turkey separately.

a) Avoid a risk of another setback due to a potential future public outcry for Turkey.
b) Extra funds which SCS will surely be needing.
c) Releasing a DLC with a Greek and Turkish flag side by side wouldn't please either the Greek or the Turkish playerbase. You wouldn't release a DLC with Polish and Russian flags together, would you?


I agree with both @oldmanclippy and @Ch_R0me . It would be nice to be added as it also enables the ferry connection with Trieste and Toulon. Just separate though

Aegean DLC -> Greece
Anatolia -> Turkey

However I am still sceptical over how much of a priority should it be over having an overhaul of the older countries that really need the rework.

[plykkegaard]

New DLC's give you needed income
Overhaul gives you a content community but sadly no income

[sachy]

I can totally see Greece+Crete+Cyprus as small separate DLC. The islands can be on a bigger scale as like as Britain, leaving more space for villages and scenic sideroads. Lets keep whole Turkey to their own DLC, splitting countries in half is not a good idea.