Missouri DLC ideas

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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#51 Post by Xefjord » 17 Mar 2024 18:47

So I actually drove to the building I was talking about before, the building that looks super iconic on the intersection between I-44 and Kansas Expressway / Hwy 13 in northern Springfield.
I remembered that it glowed, but had not seen it glowing since I was a kid, and everyone else seemed unconfident, so I just drove there myself and can now confirm it does glow.
I dunno if SCS always gets to see these places at night, since street view data is obviously only during the day. But I took a picture so it can be used as reference.
Day and Night Picture of the PJC Insurance Building off of I-44 North of Springfield, MO
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#52 Post by 1948LJMack » 07 Apr 2024 01:23

In Springfield, I am hoping that Bass Pro makes the game. That place is almost like a city within a city. It's the headquarters of the major sporting goods store. They have a ton of sporting goods items, a museum, several fish aquariums, even a few restaurants! I took some pictures for SCS for my neck of the woods, but as I am practicing scaling, some of mine might not make the game. When you come along I-44 and cross US 61-67, you can see on the northeast side of the interchange that there is a Walbert and several restaurants. It would be an SCS first if they make that as a two-function location, a rest stop and a deliverable Walbert. Xefjord, I assume you have been to Branson. SCS went there as well. Now due to the smaller scale city there, it might be tricky to model when it comes to having a deliverable place. At the Grand Country Village, I thought that the oversized instrument hanging through a window at the Grand Country Fun Center was a bass guitar, but I learned that it was the fretboard of a banjo. The reason why I came up with the idea of coming up with a parody name for Grand Country Village "Big Guitar Village" is because in country music, the popular instrument in country music is the guitar. Each time I hear the 12-String drive on a guitar record, I think of riding in a big truck.
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#53 Post by 1948LJMack » 20 Apr 2024 04:48

I am hoping that Branson does make it into the game.
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#54 Post by 1948LJMack » 23 Apr 2024 22:25

Lindbergh Blvd. from just north of I-270 all the way down to South County Mall, US 67 follows it all the way. Here is what I am thinking but we never know if it will make the game. In the St. Louis area, most of the way from as far west as Gray Summit, it's still country until you reach 141. 109 doesn't even go to I-64. But MO route 340 does, but 340 doesn't go to 44. Algong 100, it is really one SCS mile using the 1.20 map scale from I-44 to MO 141. And from there to Hanley Road, it is 3.3 miles using the 1.3 scale or a half a mile using the 1.20 map scale. So here is what I am thinking for the highways:

I-64 (US 40) from I-70 to Chesterfield Parkway W which is just west of MO State route 340.
I-64 (US 40) from Hanley Road or Big Bend to Kingshighway in the city and then from Vandeventer on past the river.
MO route 100 from I-44 to Hanley Road
US 67 from at least I-270 to I-55, and then from route M to Arkansas border.
I-55 from US 67 to route N, then from 67 on down to the Arkansas state border.
I-270 from the river to US 67.
I-255 form I-55 on into Illinois
MO 231 from River City Casino Blvd., to what is really US 61-67 but in the game we could make it hook up to I-55.
MO State route 76 from US 65 (old route) to MO 248
Mlo State route 744 is Kearny Road in Springfield. Springfield must have Kearney Road, Sunshine Blvd., Glenstone Blvd., and also Campbell Avenue.
Business Loop 55 from I-55 near Jackson to I-55 near Scott City
MO State Secondary route K (Williams Street) from I-55 to MO state route 177 (Sprigg Street).
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#55 Post by 1948LJMack » 30 Apr 2024 02:40

When I saw a prediction map of St. Louis, Branson, and Springfield, I noticed that what I saw looked to me like Lindbergh (US 61-67) coming up from South St. Louis County, and then a jump over to where I-270 is at. The artist did a splendid job in creating W 76 Country Blvd. and he managed to get in I think route 165 and 265 as well. I haven't seen the one for Cape yet. When I said running 67 from I-55 up to 270, it's I-55 which is really in Mehlville and would run up to where it meets I-270 in Hazelwood. the Innerbelt is the highway that parallels I-170 from I-270 down to what I call US 40. That highway almost goes in a straight line from 270 down to 70 and then does a shallow S turn down to 40. The highway is pretty close to Hanley Road, and then near 40, it's close to Brentwood Blvd. And it's why I wanted the Innerbelt to be out of the game. Hanley Road does a better job in running north and south. Between 40 and Manchester, it's pretty industrialized. Then by the airport, once it crosses 70 heading north, it becomes industrialized again. There is a major pharma corporation on both sides of I-70 near Hanley Road.

St. Louis is also known for making coffee. There is Kaldi's Coffee Roasters, Ronnoco Coffee, and Dubuque Coffee Company.
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#56 Post by 1948LJMack » 03 Jun 2024 03:38

I know that there has been creating concept maps of Nebraska and one for Arkansas. But not one for Missouri. But one fellow I think did make a concept map for at least 44 running from Joplin to St. Louis.
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#57 Post by 1948LJMack » 18 Jun 2024 04:45

Now for grocery stores, I know that someone has been doing work with World Market. There is a World Market near the US 40 I-170 interchange. The surface road that goes by there is Eager Road. Eager serves Charged. St. Louis based grocers are Schnucks and Dierbergs. Just so SCS stays out of trouble for if they want to cook up a parody for both stores, I told them by using a couple of products that both stores sell. For Dierbergs, Iceberg since Dierbergs and Schnucks both sell iceberg lettuce. And for Schnucks, I would use Smuckers since i know Smuckers has been making jelly for almost two centuries and both Schnucks and Dierbergs sell Smuckers jelly. I told SCS about those two names for if they want to add the two extra grocers into the game. Probably by looking at the scale of the game, we might get lucky if we have at least one store off of either 67 and the other off of 141. Right were 141 goes underneath 30, I was looking in Fenton and found that there is a Dierbergs and about less than a mile at Gravois Bluffs, there is a new Schnucks and I could see SCS really gritting their teeth if they tried to get the two stores together on both sides of MO route 30 because that area game wise would be very, very tight. 7 tenths of a mile between the two stores in Fenton. If they were to add both a Schnucks and a Dierbergs, I would rather that they position them 6.1 miles apart (2 miles using the 1.3 driving/time scale).
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#58 Post by 1948LJMack » 26 Jun 2024 18:14

Now if SCS does choose to have a mall in St. Louis, there are two of them. West County Mall in Des Peres has two loading bays. One on the Ballas Road side and the other on the I-270 side of the mall. The Galleria has just the tunnel and you can access it from Brentwood Blvd.

West County Mall Balls Road area loading dock:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6005051 ... &entry=ttu

Galleria freight tunnel entrance:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6327439 ... &entry=ttu

The freight entrance to KSDK over on Market is off of Chestnut.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6262058 ... &entry=ttu
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#59 Post by 1948LJMack » 26 Jun 2024 23:23

While it is true that it is pretty tight to put in MO route 100, and there are some businesses that may be ideal in putting into the game that are on route 100.

Suntrup Ford:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6006465 ... &entry=ttu

Schnucks from Manchester Road
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6008811 ... &entry=ttu

Schnucks in Kirkwood has two docks. Here is their east dock:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6017993 ... &entry=ttu

Here is their west dock:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6017914 ... &entry=ttu

By looking at the distance between US 40 and Manchester Road, we can say Patrik is right that it would be pretty dangerous to stretch it as far as we could. And that may be why I was thinking of the idea of taking bits of I-64 and pretty much of I-44 east of 270 out of the game. Best buy or Charged in Manchester, MO is having trouble finding time when they are going to reopen. The place could be shut down for good. And that is very terrible. There is one on US 61-67 south of Sunset Hills, MO. I do also agree that along route 100, if you go west of Lindbergh, the more space you should be able to get until you reach MO 141 because Clayton Road starts to come close to it and once you cross Baxter Road, then MO 340 then starts to close in on 100 as well.

The reason why i would also love to see MO route 340 in the game because there are a ton of ideal places for 42Print deliveries. Route 340 north of US 40 is known as Olive Blvd. and it used to be called Olive Street Road back in the days when I was a kid. From South of Baxter Road at Clarkson Road up to Chesterfield Parkway, it's corporate city on the east side and shortly after you cross I-64 there is Pfizer. And a few minutes west of that (real time) is Bayer. Bayer also has an office right where 340 crosses Lindbergh. From Chesterfield Parkway West to Olive and Tempo, it's mostly a mix of residential and shopping centers. And then after that, the scenery changes to major corporations between just east of Tempo to just east of Craig Road. And then shortly before you approach Lindbergh, several corporations there as well. Page hosever between I-270 and just about all the way to the Innerbelt is pretty industrialized. The way the scenery is along Page is from 270 to Lindbergh, corporations on both sides of Page. then from Lindbergh to the innerbelt, corporations on the south side of Page. Then for a short distance, corporations once again on both sides.
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Re: Missouri DLC ideas

#60 Post by 1948LJMack » 27 Jun 2024 03:29

Now for the other grocer in my area is Dierbergs.

This is the back end of Dierbergs:https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6003197 ... &entry=ttu

St. Louis Composting in Valley Park is a grand place to drop off empty pallets to be ground up:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.543148, ... &entry=ttu

Now MO route 231 may be the only state route in south county that could be visible even using the 1:20 scale. Close to the Meramec River there is an MSD site:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.415926, ... &entry=ttu

Along 61-67 are two car dealerships.
By using the 1.3 scale, it is 0.4333 miles.

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