Wrong position of the SUN in sky (sunrise / sunset)

[BleDrajor]

I had to laugh reading it would depend on how long you have to play to notice this detail and if you generally pay a lot of attention to details in a game or not. I really pay a lot of attention but I don't mind if the sun goes down in south or west in the game. What matters is the overall impression and that was always okay for me.

But hey, why did this discussion have to escalate like that? Why can't you just discuss like grown ups? So much aggression just because of a freaking sun that's not going up and down correctly.

Did you already notice that the rain is always falling into one direction but the wind sometimes goes another way? *ducking, running away*

[Reinhard]

And no tides in the harbors.

The constellations in the sky? I don't even dare to look for that. What would this do to my horoscope? I'm doomed.

And the most dramatical issue: The world is flat. The figure of the earth is flat. FLATWORLD!

[Prince_VLAD]

I compared some places and Sun positions (sunrise, sunset, etc) vs real World data. Till we have not made all seasons in game, it is irevelenat speak about right position of Sun. Because in 6. or 12. month of year is Sun in different positions. So I am closing this till we have all seasons in game. I hope you will accept this even if this is interesting topic.

sorry but i'm not buying this excuse. At least sun position should be accurate for summer season ! Nothing but lazy excuse period. Do we really have to wait for ETS 4 to see correct sun position? Bizzare.

By all means, I agree with you ! Lazyness is responsable for many bugs in this game. They released the 1.30 patch and NO ONE checked the roads ? Come on.... There are at least three blanks, BIG ONES, where asphalt tiles should be in three places on the highway. Nobody saw them ? I don't buy that either. Or...there was reported on every site , the redundant give way, but they did nothing. Laziness, you said it right...

[Prince_VLAD]

I had to laugh reading it would depend on how long you have to play to notice this detail and if you generally pay a lot of attention to details in a game or not. I really pay a lot of attention but I don't mind if the sun goes down in south or west in the game. What matters is the overall impression and that was always okay for me.

But hey, why did this discussion have to escalate like that? Why can't you just discuss like grown ups? So much aggression just because of a freaking sun that's not going up and down correctly.

Did you already notice that the rain is always falling into one direction but the wind sometimes goes another way? *ducking, running away*

I gues you didn't pay to much attention to lots of things pal...It's not just the sun position, there are other annoying things unsolved or missed in the game and in the lastest patch. And , by the way, if you wanna talk like grown-up , does RESPONASIBLITY or..SERIOUSITY tells you anything when you pay for a product which was supposed to work 100% and you get something that work partially ? If you go, for instance, to buy a car do you know any manufacturer that will sell you one without a ...tyre or a door ? Or if you go to buy a cookie to the grocery , did you get it 1/3 already eaten by someone else ? Eh ??? In a way I am surprised by your reaction because you are German and as I know Germans have reputation of hard workers and people who take it very seriously when it comes to seriousity and responsability. Or maybe I didn't hear correctly...which one is it ?

[Flemming V]

I compared some places and Sun positions (sunrise, sunset, etc) vs real World data. Till we have not made all seasons in game, it is irevelenat speak about right position of Sun. Because in 6. or 12. month of year is Sun in different positions. So I am closing this till we have all seasons in game. I hope you will accept this even if this is interesting topic.

sorry but i'm not buying this excuse. At least sun position should be accurate for summer season ! Nothing but lazy excuse period. Do we really have to wait for ETS 4 to see correct sun position? Bizzare.

By all means, I agree with you ! Lazyness is responsable for many bugs in this game. They released the 1.30 patch and NO ONE checked the roads ? Come on.... There are at least three blanks, BIG ONES, where asphalt tiles should be in three places on the highway. Nobody saw them ? I don't buy that either. Or...there was reported on every site , the redundant give way, but they did nothing. Laziness, you said it right...

Would you please take some picture of those, so we can see what you mean. Also GPS coords so we can find them.

[Flemming V]

does RESPONASIBLITY or..SERIOUSITY tells you anything when you pay for a product which was supposed to work 100% and you get something that work partially ?

I'm sorry, but I have a hard time not repsonding to this.
Will you please give me just ONE name of a PC game which worked 100% at release? Just one would be enought for me.

[Prince_VLAD]

that's the difference between you and me. i always pay attention to that kind of details. ESPECIALLY when game has full day/night cycle and has magic simulator in name. i cannot imagine microsoft flight simulator with this bug for example. if you implement something do it right!

The SUN ís the difference between you and me. I also pay attention to details. In a truck sim for Trucks, in a Train sim for Trains and in TDU2 for cars and scenario, in FSX for planes, but the sun, well I guess I would notice if it was missing..
And a short question... How would you know the sun is correct in TDU 2 is you do not know what time of year the game is played in?

A simple lesson of geography for you pal: the sun rises and sets in the same POSITIONS with one, tiny exception: when is winter the variation is bigger when it sets and when it rises , so, because of the inclination of the earth axis,(I won't lose time here explaning to you what spheric trigonometry is and....does and I will skip the details) you will see it raising later and setting down (imagine a single line with the earth circumference as a layout) earlier, that's the only difference. There are minor variations which are proprotional with the interval between solstices so it gives the illusion that it rises and sets down in different positions. But in reality the sun NEVER set down and rise in "other" positions. Keep that in mind next time when you are talking about this subject.

[Prince_VLAD]

does RESPONASIBLITY or..SERIOUSITY tells you anything when you pay for a product which was supposed to work 100% and you get something that work partially ?

I'm sorry, but I have a hard time not repsonding to this.
Will you please give me just ONE name of a PC game which worked 100% at release? Just one would be enought for me.

Yes I can:

- Half life
- half life 2
- Quake
- Quake 2
- Doom 3

and I can go on and on....





UPDATE


I NEVER enocuntered those so called bugs. How do I know that in those films are real bugs ? I could "demonstrate" to you that a game have bugs if I have acces to game's console and playing with clip command...
By the way, the thread "quake" is from "quke 3" not QUAKE I . Quake 1 didn't have that kind of multiplayer look.

I bet with you if you play half life or any game from that list wiht the KIT I have , you will never encounter any bugs ! I'll stick my reputation on that.

[BleDrajor]

I gues you didn't pay to much attention to lots of things pal...It's not just the sun position, there are other annoying things unsolved or missed in the game and in the lastest patch. And , by the way, if you wanna talk like grown-up , does RESPONASIBLITY or..SERIOUSITY tells you anything when you pay for a product which was supposed to work 100% and you get something that work partially ? If you go, for instance, to buy a car do you know any manufacturer that will sell you one without a ...tyre or a door ? Or if you go to buy a cookie to the grocery , did you get it 1/3 already eaten by someone else ? Eh ??? In a way I am surprised by your reaction because you are German and as I know Germans have reputation of hard workers and people who take it very seriously when it comes to seriousity and responsability. Or maybe I didn't hear correctly...which one is it ?

I pay a lot of attention to a lot of things but I don't talk about everything and as I've already written, if it doesn't destroy the overall impression I don't see any problems. The sun goes into this category for me. There are many other points that are more necessary to be fixed (i.e. the motorway signs showing wrong lanes).

This example you give with that car... it's not like if there's a missing wheel or door. It's more like a lamp that lights the wrong area or a too soften seat. Simple things that can be fixed on the one hand, things that won't be noticed or complained about by many people on the other hand.

And always remember, nothing can be perfect, not any car or game. Nothing. There's always a point of improvement to find, something to complain about.

[Flemming V]

does RESPONASIBLITY or..SERIOUSITY tells you anything when you pay for a product which was supposed to work 100% and you get something that work partially ?

I'm sorry, but I have a hard time not repsonding to this.
Will you please give me just ONE name of a PC game which worked 100% at release? Just one would be enought for me.

Yes I can:

- Half life
- half life 2
- Quake
- Quake 2
- Doom 3

and I can go on an on....

Here we go. look at some bugs.

- Half life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDqF-EDCpLU)
- half life 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYL5uLqtnqU)
- Quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wvb-EXxnjE)
- Quake 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2h5AnpkvyA)
- Doom 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH6LG_2awrU)

And you don't need to find more to me